Welcome to our candid and enlightening conversation with the extraordinary Khyia ward and guest Kamora Byrd. As two trans women, we bring you a raw and personal discussion about our unique journeys to self-discovery, our triumphs, and the challenges we've faced throughout our transitions. Hear Kamora's compelling story about when and why she chose to transition, an intimate dialogue that reveals a profound understanding of identity, acceptance, and the power of self-expression.
Our chat isn't limited to identity and transition, though. We also share our perspectives on dating as trans-sensitivists, providing a fresh take on relationship dynamics. Ever wondered about the intricacies of dating, or the unique struggles and joys of raising a step-child in our community? Stick around to hear about our experiences. We also touch on some heavier topics, such as why some people turn to sex work and the dangers associated with it, providing an empathetic perspective on survival and resilience.
Finally, we lay open our hearts to discuss deeply personal experiences with infidelity and deception. There’s no sugar-coating the damage it inflicts on relationships, the heartache it brings. Yet, through the pain, we explore the strength in understanding, the value in communication, and the power of honesty. It's not all heavy; we also celebrate the diversity among women, highlighting the importance of mutual respect, support, and love for each other. Get ready to broaden your understanding, challenge your perspective, and perhaps even gain some insights into your journey. Join us, as we share, learn and grow together.
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Welcome to our candid and enlightening conversation with the extraordinary Khyia ward and guest Kamora Byrd. As two trans women, we bring you a raw and personal discussion about our unique journeys to self-discovery, our triumphs, and the challenges we've faced throughout our transitions. Hear Kamora's compelling story about when and why she chose to transition, an intimate dialogue that reveals a profound understanding of identity, acceptance, and the power of self-expression.
Our chat isn't limited to identity and transition, though. We also share our perspectives on dating as trans-sensitivists, providing a fresh take on relationship dynamics. Ever wondered about the intricacies of dating, or the unique struggles and joys of raising a step-child in our community? Stick around to hear about our experiences. We also touch on some heavier topics, such as why some people turn to sex work and the dangers associated with it, providing an empathetic perspective on survival and resilience.
Finally, we lay open our hearts to discuss deeply personal experiences with infidelity and deception. There’s no sugar-coating the damage it inflicts on relationships, the heartache it brings. Yet, through the pain, we explore the strength in understanding, the value in communication, and the power of honesty. It's not all heavy; we also celebrate the diversity among women, highlighting the importance of mutual respect, support, and love for each other. Get ready to broaden your understanding, challenge your perspective, and perhaps even gain some insights into your journey. Join us, as we share, learn and grow together.
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Welcome to Cocktails and Combo with Kaya. This episode is the life of a trans woman, and my special guest I have with me today is my girl, kamora Bird. Hey, everyone, and yes, before we get started, I want y'all guys to subscribe to my YouTube channel. Thank you. And as you know, I am a bartender, so before my episode, we start off making drinks, and today we're going to be drinking a green tea. So basically, what that is is Jamerson, peach, snob and sweet and sour mix. So, kamora, we can start with a make a home drink. Yes, okay, so put on shot, shot of Jamerson. I think this is going to have fun.
khyia:Yeah girl, we're going to have fun. Get you some sour mix.
kamora:So what's the name of this? Is this your drink? No, this is just a drink, okay.
khyia:I thought it was like you make it in yourself. Most bars they have green tea. You should try green tea shots, and then you get your second drink. So, like, did you go to school for that? Well, no, I just started on BLSFE.
kamora:That's why I got my bar license.
khyia:This is a winter class study online.
kamora:So you ever saw this show like when I first came in and they be like I did not know, brigitte O.
khyia:I did not know that. I didn't know that.
kamora:No, I'm bartending, you didn't know that they say Brigitte O, like when they have too much. I'm going to try my ass. She never even tried green tea.
khyia:This is her first time trying green tea. I like it. Yes, ma'am, it's cute, but you guys, we're going to get into our interview. Like I said, this interview is basically about the life of a trans woman and if you don't know, you know now. I am a part where we both are a part of the LGBTQ plus community. I am a trans. What do you identify yourself? You know it's transgender, trans, sexual trans, all types of shit.
kamora:Girl, I'll be scared to you know, I identify myself as a trans woman. I hate the word trans, I hate the word T girl. I hate those kind of mean things. I hate those words. So I consider myself a transgender woman.
khyia:So you guys, I'm going to start off just telling you all a little bit about me, and then we'll move on to Camora and then we'll start the interview with me. Quentin and Camora, my pronouns are her and she. I'm originally from Memphis, tennessee, by grew up in West Memphis, arkansas, but I'm currently living in Memphis, tennessee. My job I'm a bartender. I'm not single. I'm dating. At the moment we're in a relationship. She's married, that's for sure, and my birth sign and I'm Aquarius and Camora. The same questions for you your pronouns.
Speaker 3:Okay, where are you?
khyia:from your occupation, your family and everything. And what's your birth sign?
kamora:Okay, I'm Camora Camora Bird. My pronouns are her and she. I was originally born in Jackson City. I moved to Memphis when I was 13 in 1996. So I'm just going to start behind that. My profession bad bitch Period Period. I work at Taco Bell.
khyia:I'm a GM for Taco Bell.
kamora:I've been with you. Okay, yeah, I've been with Taco Bell Like 22 years. It was my first job when I was 16. Shit girl, I've been there. I am single, you're single.
khyia:I'm single right now. How long you been single.
kamora:Look, I can't speak.
khyia:Got it, I've been single like two weeks, Also this recent Okay girl, we gon' get into that we gon' get into that.
kamora:I love you so much. I love you, I love you. I love you. I'm from New York. I'm a good girl.
khyia:We gonna get into that. Don't get into that. What's your sign? Of birth sign.
kamora:I'm a query, it's motherfucking team a query. This is gonna be so much fun. Emotional to yeah, I know and we drink it too.
khyia:Yeah, and we got a. We got see the pink, the pink, we the pink blunts Okay, so y'all, let's kick this interview out. Your first question, come on. Okay, when did you choose transition and how was that experience?
kamora:We know I okay, I'll have to take it back to my days in time entertaining. I'm doing drag, doing pageant, doing shows. I have to say I took an interest in Trans gents transitioning around the time because, you know, after we do the shows was tipping and stuff like that. I mean I'm not so I good, I look in a wig and make up Um, but for if real I ain't start taking a serious like into 2018. I was dating a guy. It's so crazy. Just like I said, I was entertaining, I came home when I stayed I was staying the orange mouth and these apartments called the other. I don't know how I met this guy, my Boyfriend, puncher, which is tattooed on me. I met puncher. He was outside. He was dating this other trans girl. They stayed upstairs to me and I Was going in the house. You know I was a drag queen, cross dresser what do you want to call it?
kamora:at that time we had started dating and he just told me that's what he liked it and I really thought you know, I thought we were gonna be together and I Decided to do a little bit for him, but a lot for me, and that's those.
khyia:So you pretty much answer my second question what made you transition? So basically, you know, I mean. Majority was for you, but a little bit was for me, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, so did you know that you did.
khyia:You Just recently, you know, send me a study. You said 18 or 2018. That's when you know I'm saying like, did you before? You know I'm saying have those ideas of transitioning as to a woman?
khyia:Like it's cute, like you know. So you have some people who like me for it. I always felt different. Mm-hmm, I was always feminine, right? You know, saying I always Hated boy clothes. I hated the saggy. I like the tight jeans, tight shirt, right? No, I'm saying I had a switch in my wall, mm-hmm, talk feminine. So I just always felt different. I always feel like you know, I'm saying that I was supposed to be a girl. Um, so this, yours or your, just recently.
kamora:No, because I like. I take you back to when I say I was entertaining. I like the attention I got from me. Like you know I thought I got through entertaining. I still go home play on Moco, body stuff, like Like that girl, and you know boys come over we look up with link and I just like, because I didn't like gay boys when I started doing drag. I don't like gay boys up a dead and I only dated one gay boy my whole life. We was together like off and off, like 16 years. So when I like, I say I like I love, I love me and I love masculinity.
khyia:So right yeah cuz we're one and one, be with a feminist man no, no.
Speaker 3:And it's the same to me.
khyia:See, I only dated one feminine guy and this one I was branding right and Brandon is the boy version of guy right. Yeah, I don't know right, when I you know I'm saying was bringing the only dated one gay guy, and course I Didn't want to be with him, but he took care of me. You know saying it was, you know saying I was in high school, he took care of me, he was feminine and there was this. The only thing that I did, I didn't like and I didn't ever tell him, but you know.
kamora:You know what I talked about. We can't get him.
khyia:Yeah, we can. Okay, I'm in a whole girl okay right, but I didn't. When I was dating him in high school, I wasn't having six. I didn't say I was probably grown about 18. I did, I tried one time and then I try, you like it. Yeah, I liked it, but it hurt it, you know it's scary so I never tried. You know saying and Him, the guy that I was dating the house, who he was like I say he was really feminine but he had a big ass, wow.
Speaker 3:So when we the bottom. No, he's the top.
khyia:He's the top but you know, I say he was feminine but and when we did try girl he was so big girl.
kamora:Like, I, like, I like big dick. He was.
khyia:Big girl. He probably was thick too. Oh yeah, I don't like.
kamora:Oh, no man.
khyia:He was, you know saying, this only feminine guy ever dated. You know saying, and when I start transitioning, when I transition, I started, you know saying I was 18, so okay, once I started I Wanted to be, of course, be with a masculine man. I don't want to be seen with nobody. Family, right. So I feel that I see how you know saying yeah, but so it's like much, much easier Transition to a woman than it was when you was living your life is just a regular.
kamora:I could say it's Morris, yeah, um, they wise, yeah. I think my day. Life is a woman has Tremendous this turned around. I mean, I was good at the game board now that's I'm still but I did drag so a lot of boys. If you want hardcore they, they weren't looking for you. So when I went on the transition as a transgender woman, I got most shit. That's a. Treat me better, treat me like a real bitch with a real pussy. So I like it. But it give me the downfalls, the other that I don't like, right.
khyia:And it's the same. It's the same with me, you know saying once I started, I got more attention as a girl. It's hot man, I'm saying as a I did when branding of course I was handsome is branding, but it's like when I switched over I got more attention, of course, on I looked at attention so it's the same. It was the same for me, baby. I ain't been back ever seen but I got said it was. The feeling for me is Like so I had your family, take you okay and I answer.
khyia:I answer first okay, far as when I, if you say when I switch, or when I just came out when you okay, you know it's two different coming.
Speaker 3:Out exactly come out?
kamora:no, as the game one first.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was, that was hard.
kamora:Yeah me too, and then you came out of the grid. It was easy for me for you, to your parents. Yes.
khyia:See my I want to see coming out is.
kamora:And I'm grateful.
khyia:Coming out the gate. Boy and I did mine early. I was in middle school. Okay so coming out as a gay boy. I just I remember going to school telling everybody I was gay.
kamora:Wow, what's we want to? I was in with me. Okay, I was one of Memphis.
khyia:But listen, this is why, because I, just like I, used to always get picked on you always, these are coming gay, you know, saying, like I said, I was feminine top, feminine switch when I walk, so I used to always hear gay, these babies all these so. I used to get so tired of going home crying and you know saying, then trying to hurt myself and all that because of what people so one day I remember praying about one home praying pray.
khyia:Then I and I. The next I woke up I went to school and I told I was just telling girl it was so crazy. I was just telling people that I was okay, yeah it got back to my mom and when they got back to my mom she was like you know. Why I heard now she ain't you say she just like she heard that you know I was going to school telling people that you know I was gay and it wasn't no angles, it wasn't a big deal like my mom didn't put me out, nothing like that.
khyia:As she met her, my stepdad met my first boyfriend Because when I said we was talking about moving with each other and I was on the age I was 16 at that time, he was like 18. So of course, I had to get my parents permission. So they met my first boyfriend. It wasn't bad, but it still was different. Now, me transitioning to a girl was Took my mom for a little, you know saying because, yeah, you know I was the only boy. Oh, my mom got all girls also.
khyia:Only they just, you know, I'm saying now we good, you know, since she come to with Kylie the her first, it was still calling me here, you know, saying it was so hard. You know May was so hard, but now we're in a much better place. Yeah, she was big, hi, she know who I am and she love me. I love my mom. You know, I'm saying we're in a much better place. Now you, how was your transition from a boy and then to a trans woman?
kamora:Yeah, um, um God, I Was working at heart. I was working at heart On some of them and I hate to my grandma I had already was crossdressing, because I told you my very first, my very first trade boyfriend, puncho, you know, saying I was already crossdressing, going to work and then I come home, take it off. No, I got tired of it. So I was like puncho, like my best friend, atlanta justice is like oh, we're a wing, why don't you just go on transition just to get it done? You want to do.
kamora:You want to do it Because I had our starting my nails on the stuff and grown my hair. Um, I call my grandma one day Because I had already been telling my boss at the job, my, um, my boss, miss Lisa, that was on the transition. She was like I want the name changing all this other stuff. And she, like you have to do this, steps to doing it. We got to talk to the whole story. Make sure everybody understand what's going on. They need their first.
kamora:So, um, it was in September 2018. I was like she, like what is you talking about? You? My grandma? She said you get the surgery and stuff. It was just a hobby that you was on the dress, not doing dragon stuff. I was like as a woman. So, um, girl, I saw going to work at the girl. I'm gonna change the test down. Of course, you know the shop to people. So I feel like my best friend, bring this out. We like, when you transition, you got to lead that job Because they don't respect you, so I had to learn at the hard way me to.
khyia:I had learned how Should I got fire so much?
kamora:so, girl, I Wouldn't I transition the stuff that I got my name. I had got this before I got my name change. I was a girl. I was a girl probably like a year into. If I got my name change, which I tell in the girl if you're gonna transition, pray about it and go on to get it done, because, girl, the more you prolong, just hold yourself up.
khyia:I didn't get my change in my 30s. Your name, girl.
kamora:How did you work on them? Years. It was hard. It was the worst. It's the worst.
khyia:It was. It was the bad man, the jobs, the application man, oh my.
kamora:This ain't you, that ain't you girl. It was your ID girl.
khyia:I hated it. I hated it. Get you know. I said being at work, they call your name. You know saying.
kamora:Yeah.
khyia:Yeah. Yes, I was gonna come out of court and I always had a word a warehouse job. Yeah, I used to hate it. I used to hate it, so y'all went through there for damn near.
kamora:I went on the other chance because they're calling me Morris and I'm coming to work as Kim or we're gonna cut it for me. So I call my grandma. She, we cry, and it was so easy, cuz like I just started doing it and they just Now. I do get on my past because I feel like my mom and my grandma, they want ours, no need eggs, morris, right, and I don't. You know, I don't try to force it upon them because I know we're in a good place.
kamora:I let. They're the only people that can. I could say that all the people that can't call me there Anybody else, they can't come and that's how I was my mom like when it first started. I don't like it, though.
khyia:Oh yeah, I'm not gonna like it. She's looking at living. Your life is one, looking like one, but being called. You know I'm saying yes this shit makes you feel something and and this I was my first time, you know I'm saying with my mom. I Was not saying being a little leaning, I was like you know, cuz she used to hustle. You know I'm saying something. I just how I deal with I didn't come around.
khyia:I didn't come around at all like To this day, my family. I already go around my family like that. You know I'm saying they don't call you.
Speaker 3:They know they call me Kylie, but you know they call me Kylie.
khyia:But you know, I see I got my. I got something that's stuck in a way. It's not like my grandma's and my grandma is not like my grandma is. Very you know, saying Christine, I'm saying she's stuck in her way you know saying yes, you know I'm gonna read. So my brother is, you know, saying I don't see, I don't talk to.
Speaker 3:I don't really deal with my family.
khyia:I don't appear to be honest. Oh wow, I don't.
kamora:I do.
khyia:I do my media family, my mom and my sister and my brother.
kamora:Okay, I'm sorry, you wanna know what people are, so like the year.
khyia:I don't, I don't deal.
kamora:Yeah, I mean that's I can, I can.
khyia:I will definitely understand that now moving on to your next question how is dating like it's a trans woman, would you pretty much like?
kamora:Yeah, I like it, but, um, I Hate that man see some trans woman is fantasies and we're not fantasies and like when I do like okay, let's say I'm in a lot of and before we go into this, because this, this Question I just asked you probably been answered about five other questions, because, okay, which is dealing with your type of man?
khyia:I was other stuff in the shit that you know. I said we go through with man's like you talking about fantasy. I know we've been given to details about you know how, man, you know I say how they treat trans with white L, shame and all this. You know so, but go ahead, you say it back to what you were saying about like you hate about the fantasy.
kamora:I Hate it. Some in treat trans women. Let me hold on. Let me stop the reward I had had some men try to treat trans women.
kamora:Yeah, um, like I said, if I want, just want to be a fantasy, this, this, I want to be my choice, not not your choice, cuz I feel like I chose this lifestyle. You didn't choose it for me, but I hate that and I hate to have some women I Can't say someone, because I can't say that I could make the thing did you know Me to me and bring them in over something, fucking them and all that type of stuff. It was curious at the time. But when you live a life and walk that walk every day, I'm like, oh yeah, I can't fuck this nigga, I can't. I can't get his neck into my pussy. He can't give you, can't do nothing for me. So but I do like they. I love baby guys, like I love my boy. The last guys I encountered, I love them. They treated me like a woman. So, yeah, but I mean they, they don't shoot you like a woman, the good and the motherfucking baby.
khyia:So what is your type?
kamora:They young, come over like he got to be dark skin. I don't like no light skin. He got to be dark skin and I ain't just my life. He got to be darker than you. He got to be. He got to be darker, kind of tall. Gotta have a big dig.
Speaker 3:Just gotta be master master.
khyia:I used to be so fucking picking baby. Now days home, you have to get what the fuck you can get. It's.
kamora:The older come over what the older come or wants that the kind of minute come on, the older come on once.
khyia:It's changed. This you know because I used to have all day I do on five leg dark team.
kamora:Now Is an older long that he respect for he's respectful, he's respectful, he's not ashamed of who he is, what you say I'm saying to me you know I'm saying there's another one I'll give I can deal if he's ashamed.
khyia:You know say dealing with. You know saying cuz you can't make no man Just come out. You know say you have to get them the option on. They said just like you. You know I said just like you did when you had come, you had to come out on your own. You know so you can't make no one man gonna do what they do. They're gonna come out. You know saying they gonna come out when they come out. My thing is, you know I'm saying and and Building with trans. Most men, you know saying they live their life secretly. You know saying they had that. You know saying and they had us and yeah, and see me, my majority.
khyia:Living of living of being a trans. You know, I say I start from 18. I deal with it. You know, saying all the boys that I came, you know, I think they were of course back then.
Speaker 3:Shit, it was now is a little bit more of a thing you know saying, and I'm Wrong, I'm mature.
khyia:Out of an experience, you know saying I haven't issue, but back then I allowed it. You know saying because I Was young, I was learning. You know saying still learning. Yeah, like I said Men, you can't, you can't make them. You know saying come out. You know saying you can, there's something they have to do on it and want to do on their own.
Speaker 3:So don't never do it. I'm going to the grave, you know saying.
kamora:Like I say I'm, I could talk about my ex-boyfriend like I, like we was together, um, we work together like they had moved from my store. I'm originally it and I had got a friend a day, ever something. He was gay but I know so it's like a conquest. Like when I saw him, y'all like who, he is cute, they ain't kind of feminine. He was kind of feminine. I was like he's cute, he masculine, so good, working on the line I'm working.
kamora:He was coming in helping me this morning. It's more kind of people. I didn't lie to other stuff, girl. He came, he has been taking home one day and this had all stored, he has been taking home a day. He got in the car he was like oh, you ready to go home, can I take it to the movies, stuff like that. Like oh, wow, he's so sweet, he just like out with me and he just like they say he was gay, but he met me, he just came completely out. And then I was like, oh my god, it was like the top of the top of the bitch.
khyia:And see, this time every man that I dated had came. I have at least got put out the files or came. You know what I'm saying. Now they have started in, you know secretly, and then end up.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying oh movie, yeah, yeah, and like me.
khyia:Like you said, I'm not gonna date. I wanna mask my man. A lot of women get confused when we say a straight man. You know what I'm saying. Why is he straight? You know what I'm saying when you are trans-sensitivist? What we mean by that is when we say straight man is because when a man sees a trans-sensitivist, they looking at a woman. You know what I'm saying they think a woman. They not seeing no man. You know what I'm saying and when we say straight, we say you know, what I'm saying.
khyia:Masking, not feminine. You know what I'm saying. So they begin to confuse. Like I talked to a lot of ladies and I was like you know what I'm saying and I had to break a lot of stuff down to them as well. But you know, don't know Trini wanna be walking around with a mother for another man that's switching like she is, or switching harder.
Speaker 3:you know what I'm saying? Not the woman, it's just like the normal.
khyia:You know what I'm saying. The normal man in a woman. You know what I'm saying you?
Speaker 3:got your mask on in your family?
khyia:same thing, nothing different Right, but anyway. Moving on to the next question, if you could change anything about yourself, what would it be and why?
kamora:Something I love myself. I would change something. I would try not to be so vulnerable for these men because, like you know, I think I'm a bad bitch. It'll take the man that has my heart to break me all the way down to the ground, and I don't know why.
khyia:And I don't know why, though? Because we think we're crazy, we think we're rude and we're the wearable vows.
kamora:But we are some soft hearted people, soft hearted baby bad talking. Get the phone out of here. Please don't say that. But yeah, emotion or oh, roll with that. Yes, most definitely, I know I am.
khyia:So do you approach me or you let me approach you.
kamora:I let me approach me.
khyia:Listen, girl, I'm so shy, I'm shy. Anyway, I'm shy, I ain't shy.
kamora:I just don't approach people because I don't want them to come out of the bag on me. I don't want to be put in a situation where they're dead. But girl, it's just boy, that worked for me, right? Okay, I don't want to say that.
khyia:You don't want to say no names. Who don't say no names?
kamora:Okay, it's the boy that worked for me. Who's online working girl in the boys' store?
Speaker 3:You got some friends.
kamora:What kind of friend? Female friend, so girl? Next thing, I know I'm like no, I ain't got no female friends, but I got some friends like me, they cute like you, I mean they are Just like don't say a thing like that.
Speaker 3:Girl, why?
kamora:the man and let God have worked today. He got to have worked that day. I'm sorry, girl, sent me a text to my phone to my uh, something, something, something, something. So I'm a girl playing and I'm like boy, what you want. Why are you texting me? Give me a man a fuck about twice, girl, I'm in love with a man. What?
Speaker 3:Yes, girl, I love a man and you got a girlfriend. I don't even know.
kamora:That's crazy. Though I be kissing the man on his mouth like he my man, it sucks, it'll be. I have been there before. Yeah, how do you feel about six chains, and would there be?
khyia:something you'd be into? Fuck no.
kamora:The reason why I don't not cause.
Speaker 3:I can't afford it, but why don't I? I just feel like it, it, it.
kamora:it be times that I want to do it, but I'm scared cause I was always. I'm scared because I was born with it, so I just don't, I won't feel comfortable without it. Girl.
khyia:I, I can't imagine now, Right, and I feel you on some of those reasons, like me, personally, I thought of course every girl had thought about a chain. Some girls do, some it ain't for everybody.
Speaker 3:You know, what.
kamora:I'm saying it comes with a lot of motherfucking shit.
khyia:It ain't you know what I'm saying. It's enough for me.
kamora:I heard it get dry, it be dry and stuff.
khyia:It's enough for me. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm not. Did I hear you have?
kamora:to lubricate and play with it.
khyia:I mean like fuck yourself this thing. Like a whole year, Keep it up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, to keep it open. Wow, real much, yeah, so now it was that's enough for me as a girl.
khyia:I'm going to leave it there, okay. Do you prefer the top or bottom, or both?
kamora:Me doing it or them doing me. Either one I they got to be up top.
Speaker 3:Can't be up top. I don't like no bottom stuff.
kamora:I mean cause I like to get fulls and stuff. I mean I'm more of a pleaser so I like to please. I can't see much now I have. I don't know if the try you want to try. If I fuck him, I lose respect for him because I feel like he my bitch or something. I don't want to do that. But I mean, if you wanted to do what, I would do it. But they're going to make me even cry because I'm like you my bitch.
khyia:Yeah Like yeah, okay, okay, I'm not going to hit you. Have you ever been turned down?
kamora:As a trans woman. Yeah, girl, I think I'm going to be like I'm going to be, like I'm going to be, like I'm going to be like I'm not going to be, like I'm not going to be like, yeah, I have my arms down. I've got to be like, I've got to feel like I'm going to surrender, but I don't go. I've gotta see what's happening. I've gotta see what's happening and I just don't go. So love, yeah, love one another. Love, love one another.
khyia:But probably its because that's what your flavor is coming from your lips. Love Sugar Tang, so love.
Speaker 3:But you just cause, I don't go, but I've never had anyone not tried that shit.
khyia:But I'm know differently about that. I ain't never had no type of no man try pulling up on who man, none, none of it. I'm gonna. I be.
kamora:I want you to know because I want you to be comfortable, because I want you, because if you feel uncomfortable around me, you're gonna do something to me, or I'm gonna do something to you because you're you and you don't some weird shit and you're scaring me. So it's most definitely yeah.
khyia:So why do you think most men are ashamed to be seen in the transition?
kamora:I think it's society. Society is Um shame, you know it's. It's more gay black people than white people Um it's a shame thing. It's a shame thing, something I can say, but I know Thank God for the man I made that there was not ashamed of me, but it's something. At some point Every man is ashamed. Like they go around somebody new or new, while they do kind of like I'm, I feel like I'm pretty and I feel like if I don't talk I can slide through the door.
Speaker 3:No.
kamora:I feel like I can slide through door and won't get clogged. I mean I have almost our top. I mean I have a Voice. I can't change that right. So I mean I just need me and you have to you should.
khyia:Yeah, I'm a lot of deep voice hoes, baby, you know it's. Yeah, people you know saying this is and this I'm not. I have to deal with you. I think I have a very time of voice so and there was a lot there was. You used to give me clock, you know saying yeah sometimes for this day.
kamora:But you know I said I never had like Me, I'm. No.
khyia:I'm respected. Everywhere I go, like every man or woman, they look me as a woman. I said so. I don't know, I don't have even in clothes. I've never been embarrassed, I never, even if they knew, or a man knew, or you know, I say it never was. You know, I'm saying tons, yeah, you know, saying bears, and none of that, of course, is always gonna be somebody who know, be some, hey, and most of the time it's females.
Speaker 3:You know, say most of them today.
khyia:I'm feeling a fucking female who hate and go tell the nigga, you know I'm saying, and then they should know y'all. But yeah, okay, okay. Why do you think most girls sell their body? I?
kamora:Just learned this shit after this time, because niggas will play with you and tell you I found a bullshit, lies and it, and then you might, you know, gonna get some money because they gonna play with you and I feel like they. I felt that shit after this election. I felt it why people just put them on the dressing. Go on the go, baby, and Cuz you know what you getting to gain.
kamora:Gotta guess a year, six months like this motherfucker really love me, do you care about me? I know he just paid me some money. I know that this all top, so I ready. No, I rather I'm getting to that point where I just won't like I don't know what I want to sex work because, shit, I'm getting money out of it. I ain't got to have my feelings involved in there, but it is dangerous. I just I don't want to do it because I'm catching on disease. I'm 30 plus and I have had. No, you know I had. I haven't contracted enough in this.
khyia:That's rare in the gay community, you know right, yes, and honestly like and I have done it, I live there like really, I would never know, yes, baby travel, proud baby in the show.
kamora:I think a lot of money off of it. Yeah, of course like.
khyia:Of course I hear my little friend. You know I said this. I stopped dealing with trainers. You know saying traveling with girls. You know saying baby and being into us you know I'm saying yes, with the girl.
khyia:Now, we know, now we know no guy I'm saying but me I honestly, you know, I'm saying a lot of girls sell, they buy. You know a lot of girls this day job, they, they take it. You know they do this. She's like a job. Yeah, me it was a, it wasn't a job. I always had a job when I was doing it, you know me with extra money. It was more of a hustle for me. So and I ain't gonna lie, I hated it, like you know saying fucking Mean, different. You know saying different niggas, fat, ugly. You know I said just I hated, but it was the money For me and it was I did. Only did it when situation got.
kamora:Yeah, you know.
khyia:I had a friendship. She put me on, and I don't just know that, I say do what you got to do.
khyia:You know, saying this, your life shit, life hard you got the fuck you got to do for your damn cell and shit I do the hell I have to do and baby one put it past my ass again by one in relationship. Who's saving baby? I won't be happy. Still, you know saying doing nothing. But you know I'm saying I see a lot of girls, shit, they make a living off. You know saying they get a body done, getting a month fucking teeth, knees, all type of shit. Don't you know saying bitches? I know I'm saying me. I say I Did it. You meet good people doing it. I'm saying me I met a lot of good Men. This one thing I can say it most all the means that I mean was respectful. He's how I care myself had the pictures they seen online.
Speaker 3:They see hours was you know, they never came to me with no bullshit.
khyia:It was always some smart as me you know saying see, I've come say we took today. You know saying but I Think, you know, I think I couldn't take, I couldn't do this shit like you say, it was dangerous. There was another thing for me.
Speaker 3:Not knowing, you know.
khyia:I'm saying I know what the fuck don't happen to you. Now Say you don't know who the fuck you finna bring into your room or your house. Cuz life is already dangerous and a lot of girls that, like you know, yeah and I just feel like doing it like, like I said, life is dangerous.
kamora:We never know what we're gonna do by last day. So Prostituting or sex working, it just puts, puts it on time, so I'm sure you know, thank you mean different people.
khyia:But yeah so.
kamora:I do want to.
khyia:I see, what's the appropriate agent? Thank you.
kamora:I don't know. Oh, I guess, when they couldn't understand it, cuz I got acred, ii got a Namack視 ğı. I gave his friend he's the guy.
kamora:Him and his. I go around them every time and they adopted his nephew. So I have like, ooh girl, dick on your mom. He said, oh, daddy, daddy. So he make both of the kids. They call him daddy and I was like, okay, I didn't understand it first, but as they get older and they still be together, I get what they. You know what they doing. So, yeah, I get that. They started my father early age and they come know daddy and now my mom.
khyia:And see like nowadays you see it more on TV TikTok. Kids stay on TikTok YouTube, and you know what I'm saying. Kids are more smarter, you know what I'm saying At younger ages. Now, me personally, I wouldn't tell my child that she was about I'd say teenage 12, 13, because, like you know what I'm saying, I feel like kids should be kids, like there ain't nothing. You know what I'm saying.
kamora:Just like so, child. So they're over there. You know what I'm saying.
khyia:Like my boyfriend had a child. You know what I'm saying. He's a little girl and.
kamora:How was it? Did she know your teeth?
Speaker 3:Let me tell you, this is a whole girl, this is a whole nother topic.
khyia:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I'm not gonna say too much or something, because this is my life, you know what.
khyia:I'm saying Of course I'm open about certain things, but far as that you know what I'm saying.
kamora:So he's touching.
khyia:Yeah, okay, so it doesn't matter to her. She loves me, no matter what.
kamora:She should.
khyia:You know what I'm saying how we met, how I came into her life, and you know what I'm saying Our relationship. She don't care what I am.
kamora:On the outside looking in. You know, like I said, I'm your Facebook friend, right, and I follow y'all, like when y'all get to y'all Christian spirituals like, and I I don't I ain't trying to stay this, but looking at girls like me who like out to what my feeling is saying, and I think your boyfriend and you, y'all y'all who's out to bring the same thing at the same time.
Speaker 3:So I'm like oh, she got her boyfriend, I got my fiancee.
kamora:You know what I'm saying. And I used to like oh cause, my boyfriend, my fiancee.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, my fiancee.
kamora:Girl, what you y'all to call this. Your fiancee too Shit. Um, he got a daughter. I want his daughter to be like what you doing with your fiancee daughter. I want to do that Cause I mean I want kids and I want to be that, that, that foundation, and have that unconditional love. I think that's beautiful.
khyia:And my head's out to you. But, girl, I mean, and it is so obviously like now I'm going, like now I'm going through some of the stuff with. Well, we you know what I'm saying With the child. Mom, Of course yeah, and this, this, this the thing, like she the baby, she didn't know it all, she, she. You know what I'm saying. I've been in her life since she was four years old, so she had a clue. She just know me as Kaya a mom.
kamora:Right.
khyia:She caught. So when her mom found out, like me and her mom was cool, it wasn't no problem. She just not found out or something like that. She found out for like two years ago.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
khyia:That's when she, I think like a year ago when she found out.
Speaker 3:But when she found out that table's turned.
khyia:No, you know what I'm saying? They not. But when she found out, tables turn. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:Oh, I don't want you to be like yeah, you know what I'm saying, so it was crazy, I hate.
khyia:I hate that. You know what I'm saying. And Kaya, which is this? The baby? His baby name is Kaya. She came to me, you know what I'm saying and asked me because she heard that Wow.
Speaker 3:I told her mom don't say, don pielunt workloads.
khyia:She's not. You know what I'm saying. She's so innocent now she still like she's smart. She ain't no wrong, she's very smart. You know sit. So stuff like that she didn't know about I didn't do around. You know, I'm saying she can see too much, and so it was. When she came to me I didn't know how to sound Real fast.
Speaker 3:I was, yeah, I was in for Paris and I told them on, like Joe I said.
khyia:You know, I'm saying tell her, don't tell her that I don't know, I'm not gonna say it and end up. You know what I'm saying?
kamora:Tell her, and she can't see me and I was like what you probably doing with me is if I was like talking to somebody and the child probably heard and I hated it.
khyia:But you know what I'm saying. This is my story and she love me. I love her and she gonna change. I'm gonna always be there for her. You know what I'm saying and this just gonna be there. Don't need and I'll never wish you.
kamora:Yeah, my fiancee I'll say baby mama. She found that she didn't like it. She wanna let me see his daughter and all the time he be crying about this. He be crying. I have to tell him say, baby, this gonna be okay.
khyia:We can adopt we can adopt.
kamora:You know what.
Speaker 3:I'm saying and this girl.
khyia:This a whole another topic. You know what I'm saying With the baby mama and all that Cause they be hurt.
kamora:They hurt the kid. You know what I'm saying? Kid can't be hurt like a good daddy. Cause most of the men don't want, cause my dad didn't want, even in my life.
khyia:Then what I'm saying. And the boyfriend I get how he is about his child like they are they? Relationship. They're, they born, they are. So you know what I'm saying. Both of them like how they use about each other is crazy. I love you. You know what I'm saying and how he use about his doing. Most men like I'd have seen him being raised don't give a fuck about their kids. Don't know what I'm saying.
kamora:The last guy I was dating, the last boyfriend I had. I was like what, do we have kids? And we had got married. One time he had got married. He was like my heart is a fuck. If I had a baby I'd be a bitch. I'd go get a mother. I was like wow.
Speaker 3:I'm glad.
khyia:I can't get pregnant. I'm saying if you got a good baby, they're the baby. And you know what I'm saying? Good, how I am with my step-son. Man, you can't tell mother and baby people be like. I love how y'all like shit they be, like you know what I'm saying. You treat her like you know what I'm saying. That's your child, that is my child.
kamora:You know what I'm saying.
khyia:That's. I always wanted kids and it was perfect. You know what I'm saying Me and him, cause you know what I'm saying. She was a little baby at the time and basically she grown up with me. You know what I'm saying.
kamora:So let me actually cause. This happened to me recently. Have a guy ever told you that? Oh, like, have a guy ever made you feel like, oh well, I can't, you can't? My ex-boyfriend told me oh, I don't know why I'm with you cause, like, you can't even, I can't even get you pregnant. No, how, how would you feel about that? So I told you that.
khyia:Girl, then when I it hurt me so bad, Of course it would hurt me. Space come from my boyfriend like Girl like told me up inside. My boyfriend, you know like, you know, like that, like. You don't fight him when he's like that she probably would be the most fucking ex-boyfriend.
Speaker 3:Probably would be.
khyia:Like you don't do stuff like that. You know what I'm saying, especially when you don't say most of us girls. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:One kid.
khyia:One kid's so fucking bad girl, you know what I'm saying. We can't you know what I'm saying?
kamora:It's the only thing we can't do.
khyia:Yes, and me I used to one kid. You know what I'm saying Back then. Now, personally, I don't, I don't have to have kids because I'm older, I done got to a certain age, like now.
Speaker 3:I don't wanna be raising a damn child, and how many kids is not growing up.
khyia:Girl fast, uh-uh.
kamora:I'm good you know, what I'm saying, Baby, I done. Got good my month you know what I'm saying?
khyia:Bitch, no man, you don't stand for yourself, no. And Kai, no, she's a little bit, but now she's sad.
kamora:She is sad. You know what I'm saying.
khyia:She's cute, but I just I feel like you know what I'm saying my boy from him, one of them one kid, so that's perfect, I'm good we ain't, honey. We ain't one of them, honey. We got her. I'm a hip and right. She's shy. You know what I'm saying.
kamora:We have a long we be together, right, Right, do you think men and tickles, do you think it'll take a seriously week?
khyia:Girl, there's a quick stand. I'm listening, oh okay.
kamora:I'm listening. I do think men tickles seriously. You know we can't get pregnant.
khyia:Yeah, you think so. Yeah, because it's so many, it's a lot of girls like us. This in relationship, this in marriage, you know what I'm saying. Long relationship with men, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:A lot of men.
khyia:You know what I'm saying. It can happen. You know what I'm saying. It's just what we settle for. Yeah, that'd be the thing, what we settle for. What's going on around here. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes it takes you going to find a different month. I mean something different. You know yeah and yeah, and my thing, like my boyfriend, that was one day now, and it's crazy because, like my boyfriend, he wasn't like. You know openly. You know what?
kamora:I'm saying and he still you know, so you're the first trans he ever dated. No, well, they did, yes, but they have been with no Wow.
khyia:Yeah they did, yes, but have probably been with no as far as sexual now, Okay, you know, I don't even count, cause boys fuck bitches every day.
kamora:Yeah, I mean I'm saying men fuck bitches every day, so we can't just count for nubs or nubs. I'm saying like dating, like yeah, yeah, I'm the first girl just dating. Yeah, cause yeah, okay, and you know what I'm saying.
khyia:Suck around being around your mom or sister you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:That's a big thing.
khyia:And the thing about that is you know what I'm saying, you already know how hard it is with me, and girl, they don't really bring around no motherfucking matter or being in the open you know what I'm saying.
khyia:And with this relationship I haven't had a problem, like it was just and it wasn't there. You know what I'm saying. Of course we didn't came to you know what I'm saying when people have placed them in ads you know what I'm saying. Like his friends and his. You know what I'm saying, you know, of course it's gonna come in time. You know what I'm saying. But it ain't a thing to him where he gotta go broadcast me what I am, what I am, and I'm cool with it.
kamora:You know what I'm saying so do he post you or something like that on his page my boyfriend, don't do touch me.
khyia:They don't gotta know how to, they don't have none of it and this month all he had was a YouTube. You know what I'm saying. But he don't have Facebook, all this shit. He don't do nothing. He go to work and he don't do nothing. Go to work. Come home, play him a game. This thing. He don't do shit. This good, he a homebody and I love this. One thing I do a little back is I got a way about him being killed or doing no praise shit in the club.
kamora:Yes, it is.
Speaker 3:Well, fuck with you.
khyia:You know what I'm saying. Of course he have been cheating. Every man have been cheating. I don't like that, me either.
kamora:I don't like that. How did you even get over that? Ain't over? Still going through? What do you mean? It's not close to shit, I don't still he don't know, he know, no ma'am, no ma'am.
khyia:But at the beginning of our relationship it was I found it out, you know what I'm saying let's see, okay, and it hurt me and I'm still like this time, I'm still going through now.
kamora:Let's see, you know what would you know what? Okay, let me introduce you to this.
Speaker 3:Maybe I'm gonna answer the XC.
kamora:I'm not over like when I found that my boyfriend was cheating with girls. It was a different thing, but I mean when I found that he was talking to other trends, like my boyfriend was talking to Jolena.
khyia:I said I don't know the girls like I just know like the, you know what I'm saying. The girls like, but we like ma'am, and you know what I'm saying.
kamora:Okay, still like that Okay so Jolena was like me and her. I met her like you know, like I know, like probably, like I haven't seen you around with each other, around the shit like that, right, yeah, so my boyfriend, me and him he had broke up one time and he came back around me and I was like he was like I had made a post on Facebook. When he was in the park in the grid, he called. She said he was in the car with me. She, grid called him. I was like you gotta check on Camorra.
Speaker 3:And I'm like I don't know who is this?
kamora:And who had a bitch know my name. Come on some more, sir. And I'm like how should know my name? And he was like he's one of your friends, that's enough. He was like he's one of your friends. I said one of my friends who, cause I don't got friends, boo.
kamora:My friend, my only trend friend is Moe and Brittany. So how this bitch know me? He ain't call the girl. He got his number, her number stated, his phone is my home. So I'm like give me that phone, give it to me. So, girl, I didn't call the girl, it's her. And I'm like, girl, how you and my boyfriend start talking, how you guys even know each other Girl, that took me for a loop, bitch. I was like hold on, how y'all know each other. He said, face me, that's why I hate social media, that's why I was so skeptical about posting him and shit like that. I even made my friends private because I don't. I seen girls my fiance, one of my close close friends, and my fiance, a motherfucking friend with quiz. Girl, what, y'all don't even know each other. Why you saying my friend with quiz? I don't see that in Camorra, right? I don't like that. That's why I don't fuck with bitch.
khyia:He's my boyfriend. He don't like to be, he don't like to Facebook, so it's me, you know what I'm saying. But of course we going out on date or this my birthday, or something I'm posting we out there and you know what I'm saying he just posting my family, he didn't get.
Speaker 3:no, he don't think about that.
khyia:You know what I'm saying. His baby mama, this, all the ones we found out. You know what I'm saying. Like I said, I ain't gonna get into that or boy, I don't know who she is.
kamora:I never say her name, I don't know anything. So when he cheated with women or with other trans, my boyfriend was treated with women and trans and bitch. That was like the tiebreaker for me, cause I was like how did you know these bitches then? And I'd rather him cheat with a bitch than a motherfucking other trans, right?
khyia:Well see, my boyfriend's friend. The cheating was. It wasn't physical, but he was texting other trans. You know what I'm saying.
kamora:Cutthroat, don't wanna hear no more. Yes, man at the beginning, heart broken.
khyia:And another woman. You know what I'm saying. And he was. You know what I'm saying. Let me know what's up. You know what I'm saying. Don't give me a tell all this. But, like I said, he have cheated. Every man have cheated. You know what I'm saying. I'm still there's some. I'm still just being real raw. You know what I'm saying. There's some I'm still going through. You know what I'm saying With that. You know men's are something men's are. You know mothers are like right in your mother's face, baby.
kamora:You gotta be ready to work man, but my whole thing is why I never understood and it hurts me to this day, like I said in the bed, like before we even what's the time? Now I'm thinking I'm doing with the podcast and stuff like that. I said in the bed all day the press girl. Like I'm like, oh, I miss my man, I miss my man. But when you sticking your dick, that you sticking in me and another bitch and monolater and telling them, oh, good morning Texas, what you doing and stuff like that, going to see them in my car, you have a problem with it. Especially when I am with my boyfriend, my last boyfriend. I'm with the Jeff, my last boyfriend. I was fighting the case. Girl, I'm like I'm 35. You know what I'm saying. I'm 35, I had a felony. I had to fight a felony last year. I had my boyfriend how I ran the police in my car while I was in the car and I like to protect him. So, girl, he man or they, or something else.
khyia:My boyfriend, no, not a police man, like if you and this, there was a thing like I told him I was girl, I had, it was crazy girl. The woman came to our house. You know what I'm saying?
kamora:The train, no, this was the real one, oh okay, this is the woman who you know what I'm saying, but no, this had and I'm gonna tell her this much.
khyia:You know what I'm saying. My relationship a lot of people don't know but girl. So my boyfriend was in a relationship with some woman, a real woman, why would? You why? What you? Yeah, that was the story.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. She don't stay here.
khyia:You know what I'm saying, but she ain't no coming in town, coming to our place girl, no man. She ain't come to door, none like it. But you know what I'm saying. I ain't enough found out, didn't I? You know what I'm saying? We met me, her and him. You know what I'm saying. How?
kamora:how y'all.
khyia:She was in the apartment in the parking lot. See the thing he was in a relationship with her you know what I'm saying. First, she was out of town, filled out a little with her, you know what I'm saying. Met me, filled a little with me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So it kind of just happened. You know what I'm saying.
khyia:And he didn't do what he supposed to do you know what I'm saying. And she's coming in town trying to see what the fuck why he ain't asking my phone call. What's going on? What's different, what's change? You know what I'm saying. Popped up and bitch honey, it's crazy, that's a whole no, no, no, but he wouldn't know. You know what I'm saying. No, but we should know. Fighting none, it was more of me. I want to know what's going on. Quentin Hubb want to know. You know what I'm saying.
khyia:And him what the fuck going on. You know what I'm saying, and he had to be real. You know what I'm saying, what it was, and so you're not a radio quiz, because I'm here to fight. Well, yeah, but yes, I am, but it's the.
kamora:The house.
khyia:Yeah, the owner, the young me girl, would have told the mother baby would have clowned whoop, this mother's fucking ass, her ass. But and this, still this, surprised me to this day girl that had my reaction was girl, but I was more hurt than anything. You know what I'm saying To find it out, because I didn't my boyfriend, so charming, so nice, so sweet, and not just sweet to me, he's sweet to everybody, he'll everybody, you know what I'm saying.
khyia:Everybody know him. You know what I'm saying. No, that's who he is, and. But I come to find a lot more. You know what I'm saying? You find a lot out when you move with your men too Of course you find everything they changed.
kamora:My boyfriend changed my boyfriend. He changed when he moved with me.
khyia:You find everything when they come to night, when they come to night, they sneak his shit, everything they doing how they everything who they taking to when they changing.
khyia:yeah, it was definitely you find everything. And see now you know what I'm saying how me and my boyfriend, like he, like I said he got to work, come home. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. He got to work, he a little friend, you know what I'm saying. He don't gonna. If he gone out, it's me we going out on a date or something. This is with me. He don't do shit. So this one thing I do love about him. But, like I said, we got through our shit, everybody got through our shit. We ain't perfect.
kamora:Right.
khyia:But I never post my drama. You know what I'm saying on Facebook. You know what I'm saying. Of course, I talk about certain things on here, but I would never post I done been through some shit, hell still. You know what I'm saying. Go on through shit, but they ain't everybody bitch I.
kamora:Don't try to post my business on. I don't post my I don't. I can have my feelings, though now I'm not say that I ain't gonna never you don't never know the details behind, like on my boyfriend with my ass or be like you know, saying you don't know those kind of details. But if I'm feeling some type of way, I Work my heart of my sleeve. I do. I'm an emotional person, but I don't never tell you my boyfriend chill, you're not calling cheating, be my ass and stuff like that I don't, never you the fool details unless you're somebody close to me.
kamora:But yeah, I just hate that man, she. And then she be making my steps thing go down the drain. I don't like that. I've been like, I've been compared to my stuff like my boyfriend, his thing he always was Entangle me. It's the Amacala that with bitches, with kids.
Speaker 3:I'm like you want a?
kamora:bitch with kids, because you know, here my house is clean for dog, you know, it's just me and you.
kamora:What a kid. Why is always a bitch with kids? Why is always you always in tango like this? One girl takes my phone who is you? I'm like baby, who is you? I'm trying to see who in my man phone? I'm like bitch. Yo man, who's your man? And such and such. And he was around my kids and he was taking his day just doing a lot round with bitch Okay, I'm a little bitch with you, a child and he was like now. He was like now, but then, as the relationship got towards the end, I asked him the same question. He like y'all won't be a daddy man. You won't say that. You know, I ain't trying to take it from you, yeah.
kamora:Oh.
khyia:Me prefer. I prefer hold it me. I ain't got time this year. You know I prefer all of me cuz I'm your mother's. Ain't nothing about sheep, a good deal bitch. Hey, you fucked up a baby. Be lost in my violin baby over. They dumb in. So, girl, how do you feel about open relationship? Would you this what you do? I?
kamora:told my boyfriend if he wanted to be with other bitches. And this I'm so. I'm such a lover, you know where. We're curious. You like me.
khyia:I'm gonna say I don't even know the bitch.
kamora:Let me know so I can know the term. I feel this off and on. So I mean you go to other bitch. I know we just roommates and we just fuck off every now and then. I love you, you love me. You plan to be a. I want, I want, I want a real relationship. I want you to tell me, hey, man, for the fuck this bitch, but I'd be bright, big and I Exit. I expect you to come right big if you want it. I want to know, did not know, cuz.
khyia:I like I told my boyfriend they say you don't want to know, you think you want to know. I do want to know.
kamora:I'm gonna see why. I want to know cuz I want, I want you to make a, I want you to make a fool out of me. Then the streets make a fool out of me, like talking about me. Yeah, I'd like yo my boyfriend stuff. Fuck, I don't try, I've been about there. But if you like, Me personally.
khyia:I have thought about open relationship with me. I couldn't do it. I could. I have been in a relationship with a guy who I have came to. I thought I love him so much and I was willing to lay him. You know saying, cuz he's cheap, what she hell no business. I mean, I'm not that woman. So therefore I'm not finished Silver for a month for the nigga because he doing what he want to do. You know saying and I want no, I understand.
Speaker 3:You know saying not just my point of it. Yeah, of course, yeah, you know.
khyia:I said I've been there, but me now, hell, no, like my boyfriend now I ain't gonna play that you know. I said we start like that now going in like, yeah, hell, no, now we start like this this is something different, but me, far as bringing somebody or letting somebody, you know, I'm saying far through your territorial you're a point, your territory.
kamora:Yes, I can't do it.
khyia:You say you love it yeah, so no, no man, I couldn't do the old relationship or three some dead either. I have you ever did a three, I did a?
kamora:three swim on my boyfriend and it was kind of hot because you know he has fucked the trans and then when she left he fucked me. It was hot but I don't think I had about. That was like you said, we open it like a fan door box. When she opened, it's hard to close.
khyia:I would never do it with my man.
kamora:Yeah, I've done a three.
khyia:Yeah and I did it because I wanted to fucking do it. And the girl there was something I always wanted to do and I did it. Like you for me on boyfriend, they're not like I tell my boyfriend I enjoyed the fuck out of it and I did. I always wanted to do a piece of grand. When I did it, I did with two guys that I knew. I'm saying I knew both for years and shit and it and just happen.
kamora:Let me ask you this right here what, what, what, what make you think? Okay, what do you think that make me in? She, because I've been excellent, everybody, they'll pin.
khyia:You have to. I don't know because.
Speaker 3:And I gotta come. I got a conversation with real man. I got it.
khyia:Yeah, I'm gonna be only says about she now want to know, you know saying what is it? Like you know I'm saying cuz I want to know myself because I Feel like 99%, 99 out of 100. You know I'm saying me and she you know saying this is I hate it.
Speaker 3:And.
khyia:I you before this for my boyfriend. I used to always like I had hope before him. I used to think like you know some men, if every man and she you know, so you ain't met every man. I'm saying. Some women out there got faithful me and you know saying but ain't no more for relationship, perfectly.
Speaker 3:And me is gonna be mean they got that thought they gonna see.
khyia:You know, I'm saying they gonna teach, they gonna get fit, and it happens. And the thing about there, you know saying I Don't know, I just say with me and I hate it too. But you know saying it is.
kamora:Because I call my fiance on the phone with a bitch, not for the gun on him, my fiance was like.
kamora:Don't have one time. You only be calling one time. But it hurt me because I had just got out of relationship with the guy Told you punch up. He was just a heart of miss and I just feel like my, I feel like my Record would date me in for a long period time. It'd be going down the drawing girl and I'm like is it me? I'm normal there, bitch, I get up and keep my hair done. There's no, what is it? I can't have a baby, which why y'all cheating?
khyia:Cuz I look better than half the bitches you fuck with cool and then. Then that's why you know saying I, I, it's just. There is just different reason. It's so. It is just for different men.
kamora:Some is just me, they just dog angle say just me and miss just not big dogs been raising a dead and figuring father figure in their life.
khyia:Mom, ain't she, you know, saying they talk, she do money in type of way, and you just have my. I'm gonna marry my fiance go.
kamora:I'm gonna go pick on him because he took care of me. Often it's the drinking. He got a real bad drinking problem. But he'll hit me and I'm like that. He don't cheat on me, he just drink. I don't like I don't, I'd be worried about his health. He don't drink and I have to kind of like baby him, a shit like that. But he was the best man. I wish I would know if my fiance for my boyfriend, because when I got one when I was my fiance from my life I'm like that, I'm trying, then I wish it I didn't. Bad man.
khyia:Good day and my boyfriend got that. Okay, baby, every motherfucking time man baby said you're weird dream.
kamora:I have my ex boyfriend wake up drowning what you say. A shark eat Girl. My feelings still told. I'm still. I don't know cuz I thought he's happy.
khyia:So what happened?
kamora:He, just like he, became a different person. Like I gave him my old car, I was working with me, I was putting him on strong hundred trees, I was just really just raising him. I see this the thing. There's another thing where we fuck up girl we love and not just training real women do it.
khyia:Real women Sporting the motherfucking tree. You know saying they know you gonna do, they used to you doing it, so they walk over you. You know saying forget your way. Find somebody else with the shit that you didn't gave them, you know. Once they get them people like that that you build and then they get on, they own, they change. You know well, now get on.
kamora:I don't still be with you, I'm not saying they're motherfucking say you know you, they happen to be there done it.
khyia:Been there, done it why?
kamora:What does it happen though?
khyia:Good, like I say, it's all in the man that we choose. You know saying we settle we settle for all. Okay, well, he doesn't, but he liked to go out, you know, so he, you know it'd be. It'd be things that they do, certain things you know saying, but it'd be bullshit, like girl walking over me like grease it.
kamora:This thought of like after great. I my phone confronted about him, angry like he he'd get off at three o'clock, right, 3 am In the morning. You're gonna get home about six o'clock in the morning, seven o'clock, eight o'clock. It's getting later and later. I was like damn like I. Like I was like big, I'm like baby, why you can't sometimes me or what's going on? Great, he bones and we fucking this little young girl that he worked with. And I was like, wow, and for his birthday, his birthday just recently, pay, his birthday was on the 18 Mm-hmm. And girl, we I got crude, got fine, we went downtown with me. It's been like his birthday dates together like somebody living like a night. Then the grid hit power his phone and she was like I don't know. She said he like I'm gonna, like I'm like Baby was there. He's like only friend, I'm like you know, it's been a time only. He like we already spent time together, good to say 11 o'clock and like he didn't come back home to like 10 o'clock the next morning.
khyia:Yeah he was came back in my home. You know, you know, no, man, I don't play. You know she's going on clown in my relation, not right you with this one bad. I miss work when I had on work clothes business.
Speaker 3:Ain't coming in baby. Yeah, my man ain't gonna be right when I get to work. I ain't gonna make fun of it.
khyia:You know I'm saying I did with people. You know I'm bartending, sir, I'm doing that babe. There's no man being gonna be nice, so no man might have to cancel for that day, but girl.
kamora:So I'm gonna issue this right here how do you feel about other trains? Bring about like you know, cuz I would say just right here a lot of girls. Did you know relationship when you have been posting on Facebook a lot of girls, that amd is. So how do you feel about girls like they're like trying to go after your man stuff, like because I've dealt with it as well- I don't give a fuck about it, but girl.
khyia:Don't play with you Don't play with my mother, fucking man cuz I don't play about him.
Speaker 3:He knows y'all right, right, this one.
khyia:I don't play about. You know saying it is on because we got too much, we didn't build too much. You know saying this is. I Go through a lot of shit with my boyfriend, but he is respectful. You know he's a good motherfucker man. You know, saying he about me, well, he won't be open or not. You know, I think he's gonna be open. He got no truth cuz his girlfriend is open.
khyia:Yeah you got and I have had no problem. I mean mama, sister, brother, uncle, niece and their fruit girl. I ain't had no problem, nobody. Whether they know or didn't know, I don't care, you know, I said long as they respect me, that's it. You got no my say, you ain't got no problem.
Speaker 3:Train. You know, I said long as you respect me, I respect you.
khyia:This, yeah, it's cool. So my boyfriend, like I, I he's just different. You know I'm saying I went different this time. I said I went out the box. You know I said no, no cuz, you brought one to talk.
kamora:Wasn't it all Say it was not my type.
khyia:He nerdy you know saying here wasn't I like it, never have a job.
kamora:Yeah, you know, I took her.
khyia:Oh had the rain, like you saying yeah, but my mom already yeah, and him I got somebody man gonna be a man, but you gonna be the right kind of man. Because you gonna be a man. Be a man with you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's, that's he gonna be the right kind of man, cuz I was like a two-bit.
kamora:Yeah, cuz I feel like this you know About my man, my fiance. We go to our stuff. He, like I said he had a drinking problem, but other than that I ain't doing, we doing a cheese, oh.
khyia:What is it you know saying yeah, I'm.
kamora:American, though she's my birthday, I'm here. I am because I mean. I dated and I see that these names ain't about shit. They ain't. They ain't got a brother deal with a drink, a problem to deal with you. She's lying, beat me.
Speaker 3:I Did one problem cuz you'll deal with some problem.
kamora:I don't mean you won't deal with a problem.
khyia:I mean. It is you know, when he gets drunk, buddy fighter anything not great he, just, he, just just.
kamora:I don't like, I don't.
Speaker 3:The reason I like. A other reason I don't like drunk people cuz my brother.
kamora:They was the drunk. He used to be my mom. This lot on life, the white, he's the lead.
khyia:I know he don't fight my mother on the fire.
Speaker 3:They want to fight, but now he say her hurtful shit.
khyia:He'll say hope you ever talk about him, you know, saying he didn't help. Or have you ever tried? I didn't go.
kamora:We ain't got to fight one time, it both with the jail. And I was like y'all's like we got it. We can't work. It can't like we want to do. I've never been to jail In Memphis. I'm gonna jump with some of the cops over stealing, but I don't play Walmart, so you know I'm gonna prosecute you, bitch in Mary Mary.
khyia:For your home. I was yelling me Don't play with me. I still shit over there, but you going down. Yeah, I was young kid in, but you're no man. We pretty much answer this one why do you think me and stay in the father? Okay, so these questions, okay so you just pick one. Okay, even the guys or woman pussy, that's okay Say we need a guy and she off the top of your stretch, oh, Gucci scratch.
kamora:I even make a yes, yeah, gotta be clean period.
khyia:Okay, spit a swallow spit.
kamora:I hate me in my throat. You shoot on my tits down right.
khyia:Yeah, I don't know.
kamora:Thanks, yeah, you can definitely do a face shot. I'm simulation, I'm Real six a little me who depends on what it is name. It's a nigga that just coming up on my body and get out. Get out, put your hand back, okay, oh.
khyia:May have been able to ah Hand In the mouth will go de rehab I.
kamora:I remember I helped out a lot of people I wanted to buy a new show.
Speaker 3:I just can't get to the show.
khyia:I can't get to the show.
kamora:You gotta take a shower together. Take a shower. I took my boyfriend's IP on me, bitchy P. To all of my big, I love you. I love you.
khyia:I love you. You play too much. Okay, salad 6 or Handy Money, I'm not curious.
kamora:I like the clowns, I love them.
khyia:I'm saying both.
Speaker 3:I love to hear my man?
kamora:Oh yeah, definitely, because if you want, I'm gonna eat you. What's that turn? Yeah, you gonna get that Damn.
khyia:I love to hear my man. Baby, don't hear my baby.
kamora:Don't talk nasty to me, bitch Baby.
khyia:I See here yeah, you want me to slap him and just do you know, say I was like. But again so I turn me on shit. Yeah, okay, ten minutes or 30 Like If you could tell you why. Fuck you bitch.
kamora:Fuck you, bitch.
khyia:Trick or treat you or him.
kamora:I'm a tree on the first night of life. I'm gonna spend some money Like, if you my boyfriend, it ain't nothing you can get for me.
khyia:I say I feel like it would be same way. Yeah, I trick and treat today. They're gonna be you guys, right?
kamora:cuz I feel like this, my body for you, I want you to have it, so don't ever think that you trick me out of anything, cuz baby, I got it to kill, so don't. Even this was in In People like I'm gonna say small mind, how to think? Oh, you can treat me never more for becoming a cake at a hundred. Fit that you ain't my man, bitch, who you think talking to. But if it's my man and I know he my man I'm gonna break the bank.
khyia:Okay, one million, or you pay, give one million in cash, or you pay ten, one thousand weeks for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3:I.
kamora:Give a little bit to keep me going right cuz you said.
Speaker 3:For the rest of the line. Yeah, right, but you can make something you can invest baby you can, but I know me, I'm not gonna in things.
khyia:I'm a spin, so why do you think most trans women are in competition with each?
kamora:other social media. Social media I think it was way before social. It was what social media has intensified. But I have to say that women are naturally caddy and Stuff like that. What I the difference between me and other women. I see myself. When I see other girls. There are either fish in me, they look better than me. I take notes, I take tips, I studied them to make myself better, because I feel like even a chorus. I feel like I'm the omnibid shit and it came about to tell me otherwise. So I feel like it's you should be jealous of the next person because you can get to tears Done, you can get your ass done right, you can get the makeup, get the hormones, you get the laser surgery.
Speaker 3:It's about how you take yourself serious. Don't.
kamora:I'm Girls. I'd be inspired by other girls.
khyia:And a lot of girls in and they want you to get this done. You have to let people live that life, let people what's best for what you don't see I'm not having had a next person pocket is, or what they going through, what they want, just because you think a person should get this done or they should get you know, saying this night or they make sure one.
khyia:No, that does not. You get knowledge, it gets. That makes you who you fuck on. You know I'm saying you is who you is. You know saying it's sad, don't me Far as sir. You know saying I have fell now with a lot of girls I have any, it have been, and I'm a real Angle. Saying even shit that I have done nothing because I've been just cool, sweet. I'm good, I have been on sweet to every girl I have been. You know saying cool with, but it's like a couple.
khyia:Like I said, it's a competition thing. You know, I said, like I said back then when I was on working, traveling, doing with girls, it was always competition about the money, or how you look, or I got you know saying so, or the like you say, trying to fuck with your man.
kamora:I'm just I'm against all I ain't with this shit. No man, that's true too, but I just I am about Relationships and seeing other guys and other girls like you. Should I be here for the girl because I know how hard it is. We have a trans woman dating because you, we have extra bullshit, we got niggas in the closet and niggas they don't did. Then I for sure they playing with us and they make us fall in love with them, but they not ready. So when it comes to other girls, you know Boyfriends.
kamora:It's like when your guy came in here, which I'm looking down because he not for me, he not here for me. You know what I'm saying, because I just feel like this disrespect for you, oh my god, this disrespect.
khyia:Yeah, this is fuck but you know, I say it's not. I don't want you to, you know, say hey, I'm not, don't look how your head.
kamora:No, you don't hear the button. It's a respect, yeah, but my boyfriend's there, respectfully.
khyia:I'm saying this, I trust you. I'm saying I'm not saying this on the region, you know saying here I want, if I wouldn't invite you, if I didn't trust you, I'm saying I trust my boyfriend. You know, I mean he ain't, he ain't like all ever of me I didn't deal with.
Speaker 3:You know, I think I'm right, I think you know saying he ain't that type of person.
khyia:You know I'm saying so. I trust I ain't worried about it. You know how you're muscle.
kamora:No, but you know it's a respect thing cuz I.
khyia:You doing, you know, saying do something and see my boy for his day. Respect one thing about it if I have company, he ain't gonna be around. He have company, I ain't gonna be around. Be in my ear. Well, you know, I think he gonna be what he be, right, we, we respect each other, you know saying company, he ain't gonna be all of them.
khyia:You know I'm saying bounce cuz he'll know I don't even know one around. My man, right? You, the first, you should never have been young, same in my home Can't be here. But you know something, my man wasn't here. Yeah, I mean say I did, yeah, but yeah. So I also don't bring girls in my house, you know don't do that, I don't.
kamora:I learned it the hard way because I'm never do. I had brought my boyfriend right, my In the gym.
khyia:If you, if you know your man, you have a good man.
Speaker 3:I'm saying I'm in a good look you know, saying you know saying ain't, ain't gonna put.
khyia:You know saying every bitch you. You know, yeah, that's sure man you're saying do that thing and she you know, but every man ain't gonna put you know. So I'm in a you know saying with this sheet you know so and, like I said, I know, I Know my man, have dealt with other girls, nothing before me, yeah man.
kamora:They just you know they try to play that role like yeah, you the first. I know that. But I mean, when I make my fiance, he was like he was, like he told me who I he was with and stuff like that, and my thing I say something I love my fiance and I saw my man. I just want to do one time. So no cuz. I know that I'm not.
khyia:I used to want to be married. I used to, you know, saying now I'm, I'm like, I feel me. I'm saying I feel me because me my boyfriend stay together. It is like, very like the same thing. Oh no, the wash, the clothes, the cooking, the In the golden work, huh the same. You know saying I fit ain't nothing different but a piece of paper.
khyia:So you know, but I feel like you need to really just know. You know, saying I don't be my boyfriend for three years, yeah, I know him. Like the background, I was my boy.
khyia:It's still still things you know saying yeah, you know, we still I Feel like we need, yeah, we still go through nothing like a healing process. So we're here, here, this together. Then you know saying I'm not saying I'll, of course I want, if I marry anybody, be him, it will be him, but right now I'm not, this not on my. You know saying I ain't thinking about it.
kamora:You know it's so crazy. My niece it just got married to a guy I don't know in Indiana and I was gonna have a couple, like last month she, and broke up with him, pissed the damn down. Oh wow, I don't want to get unlike, I don't want to get married. That's what's gonna happen, but I know you gonna go to she.
Speaker 3:I think in life you go to she was somebody.
kamora:There you are, he's got people. What should you go through and who you gonna go?
khyia:through it and most, most older couple that I'm having Like they have been through. You know saying it's just yeah, have strong. Are you? You know saying you and your mate you know, yeah, I would have some Shit we have to be with a person who's willing to change the. Trying to change this way. Yeah, but, girl, I have enjoyed this interview.
kamora:And I really need to subscribe to her channel.
khyia:Yeah, make sure you guys subscribe to my youtube channel, and till next time, thank you.