What happens when you're wrongfully convicted and serve more than a decade in prison? How does life look like once you step outside those cold steel bars? These are questions that most of us, fortunately, won't ever have to answer, but my guest today, Mr. Anthony Thomas, lived this reality. A victim of an unjust system, Anthony spent 13 years wrongfully behind bars, a period in his life that not only challenged him but transformed him in more ways than one.
In our frank conversation, Anthony opens up about his prison life - the isolation, the power dynamics, the struggle to stay hopeful. He talks about the importance of understanding the law, not fighting the system, and seeking help instead. A man of unyielding spirit, Anthony also reveals how he navigated the minefield of re-entry - a journey fraught with difficulties that range from a lack of resources and support to societal stigma. But it's not all grim; Anthony shares lighter moments too, from his zodiac sign to his current relationship status and his passion for community outreach.
We delve deep into Anthony's experiences and reflections on societal norms, including the pressures men face, why they tend to cheat, and how he uses his experiences to help others. We also talk about our own brushes with the law and how these incidents have shaped us. From discussing personal growth and the power of prayer to the importance of preparing for life's trials, our conversation takes on various hues of life. It's a testament to Anthony's resilience and a reminder to all of us about the power of a positive mindset, gaining knowledge, and the importance of putting in the work to improve one's life. So, tune in for an inspiring and insightful journey that promises to stay with you long after.
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What happens when you're wrongfully convicted and serve more than a decade in prison? How does life look like once you step outside those cold steel bars? These are questions that most of us, fortunately, won't ever have to answer, but my guest today, Mr. Anthony Thomas, lived this reality. A victim of an unjust system, Anthony spent 13 years wrongfully behind bars, a period in his life that not only challenged him but transformed him in more ways than one.
In our frank conversation, Anthony opens up about his prison life - the isolation, the power dynamics, the struggle to stay hopeful. He talks about the importance of understanding the law, not fighting the system, and seeking help instead. A man of unyielding spirit, Anthony also reveals how he navigated the minefield of re-entry - a journey fraught with difficulties that range from a lack of resources and support to societal stigma. But it's not all grim; Anthony shares lighter moments too, from his zodiac sign to his current relationship status and his passion for community outreach.
We delve deep into Anthony's experiences and reflections on societal norms, including the pressures men face, why they tend to cheat, and how he uses his experiences to help others. We also talk about our own brushes with the law and how these incidents have shaped us. From discussing personal growth and the power of prayer to the importance of preparing for life's trials, our conversation takes on various hues of life. It's a testament to Anthony's resilience and a reminder to all of us about the power of a positive mindset, gaining knowledge, and the importance of putting in the work to improve one's life. So, tune in for an inspiring and insightful journey that promises to stay with you long after.
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Welcome to Cocktails and Combo with Kaia. This episode my co-host guest is Mr Anthony Thomas, also known as Catat. What's up, mr Anthony? I?
anthony:may look. You really didn't know what to call him, but I was just going with the vlogger's style you don't want to get this long ass name.
khyia:You know how to go.
anthony:You know it's just beyond the zip line with Cat. You know it's like it's love and space, so it's mean like why one of this one.
Speaker 3:It's the brand.
khyia:So what you want me to talk about, aj or Mr Thomas, I'm in that mode, mr Thomas, mr Thomas, okay, mr Thomas. So yeah, today we're drinking. I named this drink Slutty Henny. This drink have Hennessy pineapple juice and Taylor Port, also Tropicana, caribbean Sunset, and I also will put up a small video showing how I made it. As you see, the drinks are already made. So I didn't do that this episode because I'm going to put up a video. If y'all want to know how I made it, I'll put up a small video to show y'all how I made it, but this interview is mainly a.
anthony:This is pretty nice, I'm just staring at it With my drink.
khyia:And my co-host don't drink. He don't drink or smoke, so I'm going to do both of them for both of us, but he smoked the shit out of cigarettes.
Speaker 3:So y'all might see him light up a cigarette.
anthony:Oh, I got one left, but we good and y'all on this. I don't know if I'm going to say something On this, my podcast, y'all.
khyia:I'll have my guests to be they self. I'm going to be myself. I want everybody to be comfortable. Come on, be comfortable, but you smoking a cigarette, smoking a blunt you want to take your shoes off. You want to take your shoes off? Get comfortable, just be yourself. This is not Oprah, this is Kaia's show. So therefore, we going to be ourselves. We raw and uncut, and real.
anthony:So she did say take your shoes off, though she lived with me on that. She was relaxed. That's what it is. So this interview.
khyia:we going to be discussing some things with Mr AJ. Basically, you know what I'm saying. He went to prison, he went throwback.
anthony:He should be happy.
khyia:Went to prison 13 years. He was 13 years, yeah, 13 years. So we going to talk about prison. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:His life before prison and how is he coping now that?
khyia:he's out of prison and a story I have about prison. Well, not prison, I almost went to prison but I have a story where I got locked up at the age of 18. And I'm going to tell you what happened. And I had a robbery charge where I had got dropped down to a misdemeanor which was never a robbery charge, but they charged me for and this was in Marion, arkansas. I was at the age of 18.
Speaker 3:This was the beginning of my.
khyia:This is pretty telling yeah, yeah, they don't play over there. No, motherfuckers, racist shit. But anyway, this was at the like. I said I was at the age of 18. So, so, at the age of 18. And this was beginning of my transition. You know what I'm saying. Before I had anything the breasts, the hair, all this. So this was I'll never forget. This was New Year's, new Year's Day. So me and my friends I won't say their names, but me and some friends decided to. We was going to order some pizza. We were going to go to the grocery store and get still like road tail I don't be laughing.
anthony:We really didn't have no money, I don't know what I'm saying, so listen, you see, I like how you made. Road tail is like one thing. You know, road tail is the road tail, I know. But see this I went to jail for stealing the road tail can? There was my job, See, we all had it was me and my friends.
khyia:We all, we all, we all was going to into the marketplace, to. We all had our certain eyes. I was going to go see.
khyia:My eyes was. I suppose this is the road tail cans. Right, I had one friend's open and got the cheese. But so it happened like when we went in in the store, right, I went and got my shit, my friends, they went and got they shit and went and got on you know what I'm saying Went back to the car and did what they did, but so happy it was this girl that we knew who, I know who snitched. There's who snitched on it. So when in the store, I go to the picture. So I went to the bag you know what I'm saying Put these two cans of road tail in my purse, come back to the. I come back to the front of the registry. Then I walk out of the store.
khyia:Manager stopped me and say ma'am, can you, can you stop? I said, okay, what's wrong? He's like I was told that you were putting something in your bag and from there, right, I was scared and she, I didn't know, you're the most babies. I didn't know how to think, I didn't know what the fuck I was just like huh, what do you mean? He was like let me see you and take that shit back. And then, at that point, really, I didn't have no shoes, but either one, true. So what I did was I didn't take the shit out of my purse.
anthony:They turned to say aggravated rock or if you run.
khyia:And that's why they charge me with a robbery. So listen, I took the. I took the road tail cans out of my purse. Being a manager was like so, man, why are you stealing? And to?
Speaker 3:be honest, I was just looking stupid.
khyia:They say I didn't even know how to have an answer or nothing. So I know we were sitting there and I know he was calling the police. So he was standing in front of me basically trying to block me. So I sit there.
khyia:I sit there. As you all see, he's lighting these cigarettes, but I sit there right. I sit there for probably like a minute, and so I just like fuck this Hell, I'm not going to go to jail. It's New Year's, new Year's, I don't even go to jail. So, yes, true, I was about to say I run and y'all I had this time. This, like I said, this beginning of my transition, I had this long answer in my head, this is this one branded the celebrity or hair.
khyia:I had this 22 inch hair in my head. So y'all I run, strike out running, and I didn't know that the manager had locked the doors. Oh yeah, he locked the door on my head. So when I screwed out running, the doors were locked. I bus through the door, so when I bus through the door he was running behind. I ain't always running behind because I look, I just screwed out running, scrug out, bus through the doors, and when I bus through the door it kind of stopped me. When I, after I got out of those, this motherfucker jumped on my back. He jumped on my back right.
anthony:So he jumped on my back.
khyia:I'm on the motherfucking ground. I remember one of my earrings coming out and my friends on right now like get off her, get off her. What are you doing? And so this man had his oh, he was choking me. He had his, he had your choking shit out my ass.
Speaker 3:He had two cans of Rotella.
khyia:Two cans of Rotella. So he got me on the ground right, got me choked out my hair just everywhere. I got this long ass hair past my ass. So I'm on the ground and I remember my friends coming out saying, get off her, get off her.
Speaker 3:So he had his arm around my neck.
khyia:So what I did was I beat it. I beat it, beat the shit out of his arm. He got up and my friend was like just run, just run, we're going to come pick you up, we're going to pick you up. So I stroke out running down the street and my friends didn't pick me up.
anthony:That's where you go though. See, that's why I sound pitchy, you know I'm gonna be slut now.
khyia:Mary marketplace.
anthony:I went to the lift To the lift Towards the yard. Yeah, I went to the yard.
khyia:I was going and they in the pickin, coming on out and picking me up, Picking my ass up. So after that you know what I'm saying I was hearing that I had a warrant. You know what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying I had a warrant out.
khyia:I didn't know how to shoot, but everybody was saying that I had a warrant for a robbery. I ain't robbed. She ain't never robbed anybody in my place, so they had me for robbery. Long story short, how I ended up getting caught, I can't believe your property index was signed off on that.
anthony:Even contacted them too. Two hands of road tail and a grip.
khyia:Because they didn't. I don't think they had the hold, they didn't have what I stole, they just had me breaking the door, running, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So it looked like robbery you know what I'm saying.
khyia:Then he had. I don't know if he told him that I'd be on my way. I will you dress it up, but anyway. So how? How I ended up getting caught was by my own family member. End of setting me up in the colony saying I ain't gonna say his name, fat Nick, ass nigga. But anyway in the send me up in the colony and lying like he wanted me to do his door to her.
anthony:He wanted me to do his door to her.
khyia:So in the picking me up and this time, at this time, I like I was 18, I was living with my sister and her I was with my sister and her friend at the time and he ended up picking me up from the projects and I feel like I feel like I felt it in my something was going like hell. Now somebody right now send this to I end up calling my sister. I'm like girl, I don't know. You know something called with such and such and I don't know somebody feeling right about this. So he ended up going to this little fish market, parking in this fish market. That's when I got my phone.
khyia:What's up, what's up, and then soon he and my sister was telling me, girl, just to get out the car, get out the car, but I don't know why I didn't get out the car. End of making it to a Broadway in Missouri. I never get this shit like man, you know it is some distance. Yeah, end of he. He, I was in the car with him. He's taken me in the whole time. I said my ass up. The police, you know saying hold, took you down to me right on Soon. We got to Broadway, missouri, man, I mean, police was around it.
khyia:Man, they had fucking big ass guns on me like I had Wait, was he driving fans over this camera? No, he just, man came pull and start right the way.
Speaker 3:And when he pulled soon, we turned soon.
khyia:We turned on Missouri in Broadway. This one, everybody, all the police. He surrounded the car and just got out gun. Yeah, drop your hands, man. This shit was like fucking movie shit. Straight to your side, man. That was the worst motherfucking.
anthony:There was the worst fucking day of my life.
khyia:Man, I was like what the fuck? But of course the charge got dropped to a Mr Meanie because it was never robbed. I never robbed nobody. So but I still had to do a half a year. I missed my graduation. I missed my prom. I seen all the news paper. I was so fucking sad the press crying seeing my friends graduating. You know what I'm saying, why I'm locked up, oh see street fire graduation man.
anthony:it was a miss.
khyia:My heart is miss and they killed me at the front of the jail for 30 days Because you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:When I got my time, this one, this one they sent me to the back.
anthony:So they made me stay up there. What's?
khyia:the deal, deal, what's that? No, I don't know shit about no jail.
Speaker 3:But no, I was in a hole in the front of the hole and they just hit me up there for 30 days in the hole man that 30 days I was depressed, I was losing my hair, man, cause I didn't know what.
khyia:Before I got my time, I didn't know what they was going to do. You know what I'm saying. Ptsd is real Right, exactly, and I was going through all this and if it wasn't for this cop who knew me and my friend you know what I'm saying and he knew Jesse and he knew me. He knew that I ain't never he know I ain't robbed. So if it wasn't for him, I think I probably would have still had that rob. But he helped. They also helped because he knew us. He knew.
anthony:You can speak on the big fella.
khyia:So he dropped. They dropped it. What's the name to me? I had to do half a year and, like I said, I stayed in the front 30 days and then, once I got my time, they moved me to the back and I was man, I also I didn't want to go to the fucking back at all Period, but I had to.
khyia:So it's like I said, they were the beginning the beginning of my transition, and like they put me in the back with all these fucking names, I didn't know what the hell was going to happen. They were my first time even being locked up.
anthony:And so, aggressive or aggressive, you were like had a point to prove what you mean, was it? I mean as far as a mental state, were you like aggressive, as far as like putting up you like the playing and what you look in there, I'll have what you from, bro, you just lay back.
khyia:I want to aggressive. I was. I was more of a skid shot, I'm a shot person anyway. You took the passive aggressive.
anthony:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Then it's time.
khyia:It's time when all then I got a bit of twist, it's time when on I got aggressive?
anthony:because with the guys, you didn't feel like you needed these motherfuckers was crazy. Yeah, true.
khyia:Crazy and jail motherfuckers. Try to try you, or you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Which I had a point.
khyia:Yeah, they know but they try to try a fire. Never Nobody tried to fight me J, it was more, they was trying to date and fuck and you know saying this shit.
Speaker 3:So but yeah that's my story.
khyia:You know there's not a prison story but, like I said, I almost got prison time for the Robbie. They wouldn't drop them. I it would have been in prison. But we're gonna get into our actual interview with miss. The term is I.
anthony:Mean.
khyia:First a couple of questions, like we start off. I asked you what's your pronouns, what do you go about your pronouns, where you from Marital status, what's your birth, sign, your occupation and do you have kids, you can start with your occupation. What do you do?
anthony:I. You can tell them, I know you're just about residual income, though, but you give on time, work for work.
Speaker 3:I'll go to work, I'll go to school, but you know it's just beyond it, though you give them a sense.
anthony:But yes, okay for them operate the heavy machine, I worry, just I call it a basic.
khyia:It's a guy where we were house out Basically, so do you got kids to kids 17, 18 years. Well, you're really dead and a grandad.
anthony:And you see this, like you know, I'm gonna be honest.
anthony:So it's my pace, you know, we gonna get to it later, I'm not so it's but like little, you understand, like I literally can make them not feel horrible. But For me to move forward because I instantly got the you know video, you know footage, picture boy, not seen like literally, like I don't know if this is anybody else, but I mean I'm a conscious man, so it's like something else came over me, like my soul or different. You know saying already, then I'm not to get to them there, but they have to live for myself.
anthony:but it's not twice I got a breast on so every move is of course the strategic. It's, like you know, like life series. Now, Like you gotta work my lives right.
khyia:So where are you originally from? Well, for pretty kind of art.
anthony:So I mean I was born and raised in so but I mean the hospital where it was nip so so it's kind of like I'm good with me, because maybe they consist of pretty kind of you don't say more, so I'm, it's just the whole surrounding I can file. Yeah, of course any guy said come to our. So you know it's the year, but you will find something, this anywhere. You don't say we'll find people that not conscious, is not awake, so I mean you know, I pretty, yeah, I know some clever guys you see, is you know, I said that's why you heard me say what's up, what's up at?
anthony:Just the guys, just the young guys, put it down. I salute.
khyia:Okay, so what's America says? Are you single dating?
anthony:Well, I was there I actually did a bone Head move, but I actually tried this to one lady, you know so you in a relationship. No, I did some, I did, I did a immature egg.
Speaker 3:So it's kind of like I was acting mature.
khyia:So yeah, I kind of eat you right now. It's kind of easy.
Speaker 3:But you know I go sometimes.
anthony:You know I'm saying this be able to take through as far as on the level of life. You know I'm saying something you shouldn't do. You know I'm saying okay, what's your birthday?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm saying like Lord says he said the tears with lawyer.
anthony:So it's like hey.
khyia:I don't know what's about.
anthony:Okay, listen and it's to me, everybody gonna say that about the sound of course, salute, salute you. Sports too. But I'm saying to say, with an archer, you know the half man, half horse, it's he gonna have man half. Amazing, we got the archer.
anthony:So you can get stuck on that. It's a half man, half because it's it's beyond. You get what I'm saying. So we got the archer. So the artist shoot for the stars, where one little blah, blah, blah. So we got a unique time for intervention. We really don't trust it, but you know I go okay, well, your pronoun he.
khyia:would you go by what? They have different? My pronoun her and she.
anthony:But it's kind of like so, you go by he and his.
khyia:Those are your pronouns, he and his, and it's kind of like it's like people know, like bro, why you being so aggressive in this situation.
anthony:Like bro, understand, bridge, you know I'm saying. You know it's just like, see this. You know saying good yeah, why are you worried? Why are you drawing your decision? They've been interested. Don't waste people time. We're going. So it is what it is motion I'm speaking to keep on right, right, right, right, and this is just as dress cuz I like I hate the fake.
khyia:We're gonna give me today. So now let's get on to the how. How long will you tell me your senses with 13? Well how long? How long was your 15?
anthony:Yeah, the 15, but you did so 10 5 so 7 years not sound balling here, but that's why I tear guys.
anthony:People want to be street cool school you can come from, probably, whatever you say, your next thing which is you don't have to be there. You know saying because you don't know what else come with like you say, I'll hold down on this guy in the street. Are you gonna be that guy? But I know what you're doing, saying are you gonna be that guy? So it's kind of like you don't gotta do that because you don't know you can get a 15 year city To actually come home in seven years, but this minute, see, it's probably coming. You know I'm saying which it ain't no problem to that situation, but you can make the best out of it. And I mean I really understood the thing I did, because this, actually, you know you don't tell your friends, but I vowed to stand firm on being a man and you know, just have a open mind. You know when you get to say why would I waste my time being just mental or Like doing anything that's not productive.
Speaker 3:That's why I was getting into.
anthony:Like my grandson, I did look at work because I have to be like I just done 13 years. So they was like, okay, we drive two hours. Like you get on saying so, now this is my job. So it's kind of like I got the video. So sorry, but of course I saw today. You get on saying so it's kind of like it's the all in one. So that's why I was telling you, guys, you can get it too, because it's like people like you hear the situation. I want to know who is that guy? We hear the situation, okay.
khyia:Yeah, so in my next question, okay, do you mind if I ask you understand why did you get locked, the reason of you being locked up?
anthony:Well, you know I always had a problem with this but it's a part of my prison form. What's what I got? But it actually was the most compassion, the most disgusting, the space for thing and it was kidnapping and sick and the grease it's. So you don't see me see see. I didn't understand about I'm gonna be on. I didn't street For what, so I mean close my, be open my. They can put anything out there, say on.
Speaker 3:Because guess what in that case, if it's dead extreme, why?
anthony:come be great. You give them saying every rate you saying I mean dead extent. So they put the perks on it, so you got to understand the language. This was English man. So I hear you. You go saying it's not a lot so you are in, you are.
khyia:I like that was wrong.
Speaker 3:Okay kidnap.
anthony:So it was a, it was a trying to, so it you can, you can you just be like, okay, I hear you, but it was like this when I was 18 years old I could have went on the scholarship or understand that the Growing up before your time. So I was kind of alright, had a car, good clothes, compared to when I was showing up to practice, you know, the guys were dressing like me. You know what I'll do, because I was like you know, I was over for a, so I had jobs before I went to college. We're just saying it, to say it, just. You know it's pretty kind of artists also saying it to say it's like you get one of you get one of cover for you moving fast. So it's like they see the law enforcement Get familiar with you. See you, you know, and I actually were a quicky on this charges of Agree, so Agree the robber and they have to prop Jordan did, but on bed just being on, the same kind of popping the kind of artists out.
anthony:It's a thing and I'm a simple vision, like you know, 13 years been, I were keeping up with it, but I just want focus in on that aspect of a lot. You know I'm saying like If it's 95 now. So what you still to my soul is just like they're like I were different. You know I can't. So you asked for my needs business. I was gonna have powers like for free. Oh well, you know I can get back to it. I just want people to understand. You know saying just like the chain games, we're not on one because people are actually innocent, people are actually guilty. I'm gonna be honest. But just like like before prison, this is me. I was a popular guy. That's why you say aka. You know saying like.
Speaker 3:I never had a problem with ladies?
anthony:not to tomorrow. Oh, I'm just. Maybe you Thank you, I love you. I love you. You give a damn, but like you will be mad because you know you'll judge me because it's how I'm moving, that's what it was. I was just 18, so I was. We had to do them, but I didn't have a dorm. You give a damn, I just show up for my classes. So it's kind of like just moving fast, we ain't got to get caught up with it. It's just saying, like you know you, in a predominant white town, this is going town. So of course you will be stigmatized, but I mean, what was in selling drawers? It's just that I'm kicking. It's the same thing. Cause guess what my kicking is? Why we're at the, at the white guys. You know what I'm saying? Frighthouse, we be on the same destination. I'm coming with all this stuff. I'll be down there.
khyia:So what? You dating anyone at the time you go to the left of the prison? Yes, I am. She's a lawyer.
anthony:A lawyer Mm-hmm, okay, I'm talking to her boss. Yeah, she was going to be doing great director.
Speaker 3:The only one.
anthony:How old were your kids when you left the prison? Five or six, five or six.
Speaker 3:One on eight.
anthony:Since they're basis, literally, literally like, oh it's mental, it's mentally it sucks. I know that, but it's like I mean they I'm not going to say they say God won't put too much on you, the high-pat won't put too much on you that you can't pair. You know what I'm saying? That you cannot pair because it's like literally, so it's incident I know we going to get into it, but it just I cannot deal with my baby. So I'm going to put it on my baby.
anthony:This is like I'm not going to leave my mind there. My mind is never in there. This is my body. I'm going to leave it out there Because this comes. This is where I focus on. So I made sure they had phones, Like literally.
Speaker 3:I don't think they, mom, can say when she bought them a phone no cap.
anthony:You get what I'm saying probably years ago, but I know I done bought them the latest, last three, four iPhones. You get what I'm saying.
khyia:Sorry, I'm just dead, but I know we're going to get inside, okay, so when you was in court and you got to a sentence, the day you went to court and you got sentences, what was that like? How? What was you feeling? What was that? What was that? They like?
anthony:Well, it was like this scene and people may see and be like why so non-sense, non-sense, none about the situation, and it's like because this is my second time.
khyia:Remember I got beat people like with it I got a fan in front of this blowing my way. Yeah, I was slick ready, you know you know what I'm saying.
anthony:I want to be like why you need to talk about the situation, how the thug like come to Wall Street. Like, come give me.
khyia:I have to keep the fan in blowing.
anthony:I'm like somebody come give me yeah.
khyia:But okay, back to what was something like your first when you got to send this out.
anthony:Yeah, it was just like the betrayal because this is my second time. So it was two women, lord, in Little Rock, and I feel so stupid. But, like I said, maybe it was meant because I wasn't this You're going to say I never did anything, that nature ever know you want me, that I can't look and take you.
anthony:You know what I'm saying, you feel what I'm saying, besides we playing joking as kids and I make a checker, like she check me, but we cool, like all my home girls over there. So me and just to be honest, like you know what I'm saying, I can't even really bounce it. I got bitches. You know what I'm saying. Video business, physical, but you know I'm not going to say it was a whole 13.
Speaker 3:Well, I am going to say that because it's like we have a lot.
anthony:I work five days a week, sometimes six right now. You give them a sense of it's just like you know I was 14, but you know I don't want to make a scene out to my own, just talking about my experience.
khyia:So first night, your first night in prison, what happened?
anthony:Well, my first night in prison. Oh, he was ex about court, it was just like.
anthony:I had to say in lawyer to women lawyer in Little Rock, that's why we're getting that. They were like you won't even have to come to trial. I'm like what? So I'm like, hold on you, finna, get me out these right kids. You're like you're telling them I got to come to try and sound it too good, but literally me being strict, you know what I said Sound too good. She literally telling the truth. It's a serious. You need to listen quick and act quick, think quick and be in that procedure. And they still I'm going to go with my previous lawyer. They beat the aggravated robbery, aggra, the solid death of the property. You know what I'm saying. He crossed me out this time. You know what I'm saying. It's just as if you just it's all some interest. It's something I'm not going to try to shoot Because it is. I'm in this thing. So my advice to guys in this situation don't fight this far. Don't say like why? I'm saying like prison reform, like I really want to help guys in that nature.
anthony:Don't say that Definitely mean about don't fight for our life. Let me fix it. Let me help Like. Why would I keep screaming Like I'm?
anthony:going to tell it to tear myself down my soul, not going to be right. You know what I'm saying. I got plenty to say even proceed. It's just that, like you have to do it. Like I can, I can just tell you. I just fought to know to just still be like. You know what I'm saying? Intact, bro, what did you do to make time go back? I mean, you see, I don't want to crowd this with prison.
khyia:I mean it was in prison.
anthony:It was just my thought.
khyia:I can tell you, it was in my mind Well, these, these, these. Well, ok, but I'm not going to specifically to specifically.
anthony:I got to. I got to, yes, man.
Speaker 3:But anyway, it was like the first night really want no present.
anthony:You know law and energy and the law spirit. Hey, it may not fit you, this might not be for your mom talking about me. The law and energy is real. I'm conscious, always.
Speaker 3:And I got on the music piece.
anthony:So I mean it's like it's just a fast system. So I mean I mean I'm conscious of the point, it's high power. So I'm saying it to say people saw that. No, I'm not to my own. Now don't give me wrong. Don't make things like I want to test it because really, the time that I ain't really have to me, probably because, guess what, I want to test it because I was tripping, because and I don't mean to rank and feel your question- Because you got to understand what you want for my question.
khyia:Because I asked you yeah, what did you? No, we passed it. What was your? No, how did you pass time? Did you work? Did you have a job in them? What you had eight minutes before, how was it?
anthony:But yeah, I didn't tell you that's why I was seeing it. But we're in first hour, red Urban, when Siro says but you asked me, I feel like I didn't address you. Give them a saying. That's why I refer back to this question.
khyia:So it's like because me first, I got a job when I was locked up to make my time go back, because I feel like the time was too fucking slow, it was too long, it was too the days was too fucking long and I was losing my mind. So did you just sit in the cell, you know, say all the time, but did you go to the lab here? Did you read a book? What you do to me, see, that's it.
anthony:That's what I'm saying. We can go raw, since I ain't never been pussy, hey, I said to say I did that. I was disneyed and excellent. I needed to sit down for a year or so. You know what I'm saying. I said why is it gonna be six today? But it's just the point of like, just like you know what I'm saying Like most of my time was really in population, like more than all of Mexico. That's why I go to put down my platform.
Speaker 3:It doesn't allow pay.
anthony:I'm good with this population. I'll just get familiar with no one trying to do good on this pace and we disneyed free for a year or two.
Speaker 3:You know proceeds to the free world, but it, for instance, happened Because you got to understand it pros and cons.
anthony:But you know how a situation to be, says my hazard of pro anybody, it is because you, in your situation, never feel down. You in your situation, right, I'm down. What am I saying? Like there's no way out. Now it's a pro to a maker, to a pro and to get out, but everybody don't think like that Everybody don't know. That's good, that's positive thinking.
Speaker 3:But, everybody don't think like that, because my thoughts were I had suicide, I had suicide thoughts.
khyia:Like I said I was depressed, I would lose my mind because they never happened to me. I've never been locked up before. I ain't never had to be in no damn cell, locked up for a whole fucking 30 days and then having to do six months. I never had the experience. So there was a lot for me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:It's a lot for a lot. A lot of motherfuckers kill themselves for shit like that.
khyia:You know what I'm saying Getting that time and the time that you did. You know what? I'm saying Sound good.
anthony:It sounds good, but it is good Because it's a blessing when we hear it.
Speaker 3:You get what I'm saying.
anthony:Like that's my story to endure. You heard what she went through. If you get what I'm saying, that's the day to be the point of individual. You don't just understand my story. I hear yours.
Speaker 3:I was straight with you. You understand my most. Yeah, and I was just saying it in general, Like there's just high B.
anthony:You know what I'm saying and I don't mean to play the playing game Because, like I said I'm from. I'm not going to say the truth. I am going to be what I'm saying because it's worse than who is, but it's like it's where you grew up. You become a product. You be on vibe. I'm in love. Like you're going to be faster than you. I was taught to be intellectually. You know where you from. Don't worry about the screws.
khyia:That's just how your ego be. So you wasn't because the listening to you you know what I'm saying it smells so good. I know, right, yeah, but anyway, listening to you and sounding is like it didn't phase you, like you didn't you just dig this, like you didn't have no emotion. To the outside, this one is like hey, I just didn't mention it.
anthony:I told you I didn't want to crowd or something. But hey, why you still be real. You mean, yeah, I'm sure it is OK.
khyia:I am digging on certain things.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
anthony:Because, it's like a lot of black men go to hell. I went through with the president. You got to understand I'm wrongfully convicted. Listen, don't think you say it first day. Think about 12 years, 364 days. I'm going to put an extra sense of this year hang on count today, you get what I'm saying 13 years later, just get it.
khyia:There's still no. Those were questions too.
Speaker 3:Yes, so ready to get off of it.
khyia:Your experience, the injury, or like what you know what I'm saying, because you making the same as if it was like, just you know, it was just cut off. Ok, you know.
anthony:Yeah, you here, listen to you saying you, you innocent, right, you got 13 years.
anthony:Yeah, I'm really waiting for you to just you know take over the conversation to the point of like saying what type of form you want me to answer that? But I'm saying this, like, literally, it was like this, this, what it is. I got convicted. You know what I'm saying. So I'm shocked and for but people may not believe this. I wish I can get the footage the detective crowd, because it's like this, it was like this with crowds. It was UCA Conway, so I literally was on the basketball team. New hotel yeah, of course I moved there in the summer. Like I really like it. I was never a bad guy. I hope that's why people like can I like hear and I'm like it's no different than people that know right now, like I'm good, but it's to the point of like I'm not good, but it's to the point now that I'm free I can formally and rightfully.
anthony:You know what.
Speaker 3:I'm saying Defend myself, but I came because I have to crowd.
anthony:This schedule would work. You know what I'm saying. So it's like now I'm here, so now I can just give my money up. And you know what I'm saying. Now I'm here with good looking because it's just hearsay. So, like I, said I mean it's public records you can see, like it's just, it's obvious. So I don't want to go into it because it's like he got going to all the time.
anthony:He just a point of like you will see, like I'm aging to the point of like it's like this If I get in something over there, since you're gonna see and I write, and I write pure Japanese, you give them saying, in a language you hear me, perfect punctuation. If they got punctuation, that's what she had 30 days later. So like her, because it's kind of like, you know, just being a party boy with weed, you know what I'm saying. The girls around you you know what I'm saying. The guys why ain't we used to be in the breeze, like, so like that, if it makes sense.
khyia:So you never had no niggas trying to fight you with your ass. Punch, knock your ass out. You get to fight. You never had one of them up fucking gay niggas trying to. You know what I'm saying? I just want to know that. What did you? What did you see?
Speaker 3:Because I see some the videos I see from cause.
khyia:Niggas in prison got phones. All the muscles got phones. That's it what he's speaking on there. What phones, niggas phones.
anthony:These are all everybody's seen on any of them, tiktoks or Facebooks, we got tablets and this is one point, like I'm so blessed to be, like on Hot Tales, like I don't know it's a whole different honor what you want to say and I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just like we got tablets securities you got first day out.
Speaker 3:I forgot the broken name because you know I'm here now after 13 years.
anthony:But they do provide you with tablets. That's like. You give them. I'm saying I won't speak on my business, but you give them. I'm saying if you can't utilize it for instance, they have tablets.
khyia:It's on social media. You know what I'm saying? They put it on social media niggas get. I want this paid for. I want this on there, them men all over. Facebook. They all over Facebook they sell phones with it.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
anthony:They got tablets. They were there, camera Wayne.
khyia:I ain't never seen them tell. I always seen them phone, phone the all the videos. You see, these niggas ain't had me. They had Recording. They said Nick, in the same recording they said online I'm saying drag shows and everything in jail, mm-hmm, do they really do that? Niggas rap, they heads up and she. You know, I have relationships over relationships up in the motherfucker.
anthony:You know I said it, but it was respectful to the point of like I don't want to get on the it is. I was until level four. This the point of I'm saying like it's so much more. You know I'm saying like before after you give them. Saying like what's going on as 2024? You really see a word about 2023, like stop. You know. What I'm saying is it's like a lot of opportunities out here. I mean, some people come shit. I'm like I be writing to you know, I just made a value, asked me what I was doing right by my time the first year I Read her book.
anthony:I read I'ma say three months and I ain't even. I'm say that I'm not gonna count three months, 90 days of. I'm like cool, it's entertainment, but it's like I See this, you get on a stand. No disrespect to this perfect entertainment, but I say this and speaking point of my life cool, I'm saying that, I love it. I love that praise. You know I'm saying under a, but I need to go on another level. What I already always been like.
Speaker 3:We you know saying, and I don't want to just be talking with you.
anthony:Exit me to push you. You don't say it's like education, it's a much no, disrespect to nobody, I don't got no, I just try to be better. That's anybody no, shade or not. I don't have time for the gentleman I were to help you then try to bash you. It's kind of like this child's play like me, was also yourself a bad, and you have bad. You still acting like a toddler, like a spoiled brat. I'm building on my presence, your energies.
khyia:We can meet the hill. I breathe Because you ain't, you ain't tell me what I need, what I know. But Um last one with your mom. Then how? With? With your mom, you know, saying how did she take it, some being gone away, see she always?
anthony:probably because you know we made the mistake of how she doesn't, never not Mom knows, this is true saying she felt the energy. See, I want to come to me and then I, I admit it. See, I know it sound like river right here when I'm saying see, but I go into detail to Spain.
Speaker 3:It's not no first day there.
anthony:You gonna send this throughout the year. I was 18. I was 21 when I was 2009, you know. So that's why I'm going into debt like this, so you can you know, I say understand, like the Concept you know, people are T the concept, like, okay, I hear you, but what about the depth of something? Well, yes she took it hard, but I always say listen, stay strong throughout her prayers. She's a man of a second.
khyia:Yeah, I was, I was here, somebody. Did you have some matters you can talk to what me in and then you know saying talk to, did you mind I'll help you with far as come, and say put shit on you with. You know saying what you don't.
anthony:So we have long been out. I've been out for like six months and how?
khyia:what have you been doing since you've been out with how it's like treating me? What's been going on?
anthony:this. These months, you know, I've been trying to just be like cause was born so.
khyia:They don't breathe out this pretty because he don't want to talk about please. Cuz, that's a part of your life, me this, your whole 20, your hope is.
anthony:But it's like, it's like it's boring to our, but I okay it is, but it's a party of life.
khyia:It's a party of story.
anthony:Okay, it's your story, your experience to the question you now officially made me get out.
khyia:You weren't feeling okay, how about somebody?
anthony:else she wanted to go back to it. Okay, free like this first day. People are. Okay, dude, he did see that you give no sense. So it's like throughout this journey you end up seeing people on truths and separating so set from them. Just think about it's 50 people in a open bird for the on milk. You gonna say, oh, so I'm so like you know Say most I smoke is a secret. I used to smoke weed back. No, they mostly them on drugs.
khyia:I don't mean sound like a redden, I'm just.
Speaker 3:It is what it is nothing.
anthony:This shit all you since you know. So I believe it like, since you know so much about whatever I Ain't saying I know nothing.
khyia:I'm listening to what you're saying.
anthony:But what you say that's what I want to know far as, like you saying, everybody on drill you.
Speaker 3:I don't know the story.
khyia:I want to know what you experience, I tell you got it. I don't give a fuck about what you get. I want to just know what did you see me you know, saying if you feel like, you tell me, don't say it.
Speaker 3:But what did you see?
khyia:the cops fucking the depict the the like what you know, it's all me. I seen a lot of shit. I know I want even in prison. I Won't even in prison. I feel you and I say I'm like it's the word within itself but we don't get all free. Now I want to talk about it.
anthony:No more cuz you don't want you to make it feel like I left it, boy. Like no, you can talk about that no, but it's my job to get it. Get shit out of here. Okay, we're just kind of like this Okay, since you want, but we know we don't, okay, I don't.
khyia:You have enough of it. Yeah, we don't agree, we are freezing.
anthony:You this, this behind two more days than respect for as far as if you do want to talk about you, give me a sense. I mean, I feel like everything.
khyia:I asked, has been respect We've been to? Oh yeah, well, you know I cuz I didn't get into that.
anthony:Well, it's kind of like what's been to, like you know, now I'm saying like the aspect of, like you know, I'm saying we have relationships and all that, like people to keep a respect.
Speaker 3:That's why I was just saying though, just in case you know what I'm saying- you want to speak.
khyia:Okay, do. No, I won't get off the okay, so I Do. Do you know you do you want more kids? I?
anthony:Don't get my league down on 13 years now.
Speaker 3:I'm not making seem like.
anthony:I got it out. I don't. I'm like secret to what you got I understand is like I said not to my.
Speaker 3:We want to not.
khyia:Yeah, no, I'm saying no it's kind of like I feel it's a blessing.
anthony:But it's not like at this point of my life. I'm not stable to the point of me I got a 23 charging. You know what I'm saying. I got a job, okay, you know no shade to it, like I definitely need more, but I'm like, okay, you know, saying it's not enough for me though I it's elevation, so seeing it to say it's just like building my position in front to work, maybe I can stay to put on the prison reform aspect.
Speaker 3:Which is.
anthony:Maybe I can get up on the table. That's my plan. You know I wasn't gonna say it, but it's just kind of like I hear about prison boys on my phone. You, give them saying that's why I'm summing up. I don't know like you can make time out of it with all the wrong, so how you gonna know that you want to throw, you want to put the lock on the side, like, but I don't want to speak on it, what?
khyia:kind of a nice, good jeep. I try, cut you out. I just want you to be with every question, but do you have any regrets?
anthony:Yeah, I have regrets. Listen, you know what's ironic and crazy was a blessing also because look, people be like man, like seriously, bro, like I be hard with my nephew, bring my nephew you know I'm like I promise you haven't been locked up.
anthony:It's like you want us, you just oh, you think, but like you ain't. Like how, you don't, how you know about this. On, like, where there's the point of Intermediate banks, with you saying it's the concept that we talking about. You know, speaking on me, you know I'm saying my experience like why would I do anything else? You have to read. It's kind of like my after that, after those 90 days of the urban, was I told I read nothing but man from Wall Street, like literally word money is printing on, saying no security. But it's kind of like understand the concept of money like. It's kind of like from Texas to whatever what. It's kind of like our age over my object. That's what I'm trying to get my kids unfortunate, but a blessing time 17, 18. I wanted to catch them in 12, but you know I'm still adjusting to life.
Speaker 3:It's like five years in or something you know what I'm saying, and it's like Technology is there, but it's not to where it is now, to the point like you got a study.
anthony:What's going on like now, like spots, like I want my rocker.
Speaker 3:I want to have my stock book you know this is like you have to dedicate your time, something I know you're gonna get to the just why do Men cheat and I've been at way, way to get a man on my shoulder.
khyia:Ass a question From your pussy. Why do me, or why do you know? I remember you a man who would not waste all the water you did on my floor.
anthony:Yes, I did.
khyia:You forgot about it. I show you, got it.
anthony:Yeah, we good, we buy, we're gonna.
khyia:Why do me? And she? It's just like last guy asked me, this is not even a.
anthony:Yeah, I'm sorry, man, but.
Speaker 3:You know, it's just keep your hands, keep your hands or I got.
anthony:Do I ever not tell me, now I'm you up on my shit.
khyia:I'm waiting to hear the answer.
anthony:We do it because I'm trying to understand we're a man, I'm gonna say this word. How is it me? And she know this.
anthony:I said it for a reason, because that's the status quo, because that's what this is we are saying, but I'm gonna say they because I try to separate myself, even come in front of I Want to have my cake and eat it too syndrome. I heard that one. Yeah, see, literally, at this point in my life I'm good with like literally it's probably sound too good this kind of be like 13 years thing. It was pretty one thing that was working on it. So that's how I'm gonna say you gonna say but of course I'm safe, I ride around with my lab, but it's like you give no saying like, like, whatever option.
Speaker 3:Okay, I just drag it up, you give them saying I want to get more quizzes.
khyia:So yeah, I just want to know. Yeah, we cheap because this one just want to some look like.
anthony:We're a man, I see like.
Speaker 3:I take something down to candy.
anthony:We like candy, I like.
khyia:Some in can have the beautiful girl the baddest. Fuck up the do everything but still, she didn't see no, no, bad, as if with no Nick.
anthony:I don't know about that.
khyia:I know about a lot of my hunts. I seen there. I seen it every night.
anthony:I used to think like that. That was like probably a man. That was a lot of years ago though. That was like at 16, 17, like 18, it was done. But now it's. You get what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying, but later than now I'm gonna be honest no, disrespect.
anthony:It's some beautiful 20-something year olds but I'm 35, I'm good Like maybe it's a no disrespect, I know what. Some small ones with they on there, they at boxes, I was love y'all but average. So, too much energy being exhausted for the wrong reason.
khyia:Okay, next question. Then we can get ready to wrap this up. And here we are. I'm gonna say that For real.
Speaker 3:Look, you need time. It's good we didn't pay a third y'all good.
khyia:So, how now you made yourself.
anthony:I was just listening. I'm asking a question and listening you made me feel like I was being shite.
khyia:So how do you feel about the LGBTQ plus community? If you got a sister that's a trans trans, you know what I'm saying. So how do you feel about the gay community?
anthony:Love them, love them, and it's kind of like watch the syndrome. Oh man, I'm gonna hit a sexy bro. Okay, what's the point? Now, watch me Now. I gotta be real about it, Cause it's kind of like feel this, like be real, that's what it is Like. I love it, I embrace it.
anthony:Because, to be honest with you. You want me to be real with you. My homeboy DJ, literally. And I'm so stand up. You know what, when my homegirl first time saw me in there not saw me like heard I was in there Cause who it work, didn't know. You know what I'm saying. So he know me like he gon bro, don't you get what I'm saying? So it's like she like what you doing in there. You get what I'm saying. Like probably homeboy to DJ. You see what I'm saying. Shout out to DJ School like break time. Get what I'm saying. Guess what.
anthony:Never been a pro People be like what you doing in there, like it ain't never over never, and I'll be honest with you, it was aggressive because, you know, ain't nobody got slept down and it ain't even about that. People be respectful. Wrong best times and guess what? I didn't went to the club, like back in the day, from the club to the schools, from the club from there. Might be gotta be older than older. I'm from American way, in the middle of the city, like you know what I'm saying. It's just like saying that to say I'm going into that dip because it's like I'm comparing it to that.
Speaker 3:Imagine how I was feeling.
anthony:when I was 14, 15, 16, I was in the club and they, like, said me you see what I'm saying, I'm telling what I saw. I ain't even made a scene where I was rich. I ain't able to be rich, I've been okay, but now now, now now. I got it. Now you get what I'm saying. As far as the whole console, would it swear. If I did get rich, I would have lost it because you can't even you know what I'm saying. A fantastic system, I mean. Do you plan?
Speaker 3:on getting with this one.
anthony:Come with this, but it's kind of like you get what I'm saying.
khyia:It's just yeah, so yeah, that's good, because a lot, of, a lot of straight men need to hear that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:A lot of motherfuckers be so uptight by gays, by.
khyia:You know what I'm saying. Oh, don't take nothing. And how old saying them be the ones that you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:They's in the closet and won't you know what?
anthony:I'm saying it's true, won't your mother fucking dance? True, you know what I'm saying. I feel like See, I didn't want to say that too much. Not the end of the rough. You screwed and say it because people are all. You know what I'm saying. He might be, he might be on the low, he's doing too much. No, I'm literally not. I'm good, but no disrespect, but it's good. Like. You know what I'm saying, people, you know what I'm saying. It's just like open your mind. Like you've seen her word about that. You're interested. Open your mind.
anthony:Yeah, you literally put out time to think about that, bro, it's like a lot more going on. You're not, you're being productive. You really old, You're oldies. Women time for like wasting time, like you're worried about that, that's anybody like that's how I feel. Let people they're coming to me with talks and it's like let this stressful be at least 20,. I'm not saying me, some people adopted me and said you idiot, 20 lives out. I'm saying me which, I want more, but if you said, 20 lives out and it's a stressful, hostile environment.
anthony:I endured eight hours. A lot of people was out today. You know what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying and for less.
anthony:It's just like you're not being productive. I don't want none of that. My boss mail is if you're not calling with good intentions, like I'm, good.
khyia:So how you feel about labels, like being labeled like now they got all these different. You know what I'm saying LGTP, q plus all this. And also you know what I'm saying. Like just labels, people. How do you feel about? You know what I'm saying Heterosexual, bisexual, all like. Do you feel like you know what I'm saying?
anthony:They should stop all the labels and people, let people just be them, or you think if that's the case, but if this is where they take the guy to, you get what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying who?
anthony:But it's like, don't label it as that. Let me be what I want to be, but you know what I'm saying To my understanding. People want to be acknowledged. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. I want them, with whatever emotion they have, because I'm going to respect you as an individual. It's for him and being. You know what I'm saying and it's kind of like people get too caught up in it.
anthony:So if you saying that, let it be that, like it's Google is free because it's like an imitation to everything, it's kind of like that's what those people beat up at the house for you get what I'm saying To discuss things in a nature, but we being so, remember I've been doing a street quotation, so it's like you don't think about their aspect of it because, like then and like it'd be like the average couple of lines, you talk to them like bro, you don't know what you're talking to, you sound crazy, bro, but I'm not listen to it. Like bro, just look on that screen and you're like, turn it to this channel. Yeah.
khyia:So this last question if you could change one thing about yourself. What would it be in?
anthony:life. I was changed my. The first thing that I understood, probably to my mind, was not my cockiness and arrogance or character. I want to know I wasn't going to say either one, because it can be me, character can be misinterpreting. So cockiness, arrogance, it can be yourself. That's what you're saying, you so so I'm jealous of you. I'm jealous of the beauty. You get what I'm saying, why I got going on what I got going on. If it go inside, cool. If not, like. You know what I'm saying.
khyia:So you would change.
anthony:With huh, You'll change. What about yourself?
anthony:I'll change, just like just my overall character, my discipline point blank period. My discipline Cause I've been in great situations, like I said, like I was, you know this, every super super. I used to be a little bit messed up all the time, like we went up I ain't even get to make it to them because I moved there during the summer, you get what I'm saying. They, like I stood it out. You know what I'm saying. I'm in a white town, like oh, look like he's just coming, he play, so the campus, probably seeing this, like oh, yeah, it is popular. And he like you know what I'm saying. Cause, of course, we're definitely in the bar this is not a bar, it's like and we're in my home. Boys, that's what I am. I don't want to be going to say so, but you eat it.
anthony:They printed a slave on it and put the trap on it though. That's why I was named the trap, but it was there as I was chillin. You get what I'm saying. But it's like they seen it. It's like for his traffic, it was just as far as all in all, and everybody can say that they blessed throughout the experience, because people, some people said like he brush it off, like it was nothing. It wasn't. I just didn't want to get crowded. Nope, we just we can speak on anything politics. You know I'm saying we were around and we opened my own country to people. So it's kind of like you do have to take it like that. Whatever strife or whatever stumbling blocks, you know what I'm saying. You're going with us and you're doing it. You're comfortable, like cope with your situation immediately.
Speaker 3:That's the first thing you do. Mental is everything.
anthony:You know what I'm saying. This may sound a praise or a word or a lame, but I know who you are. I can decide who you are if this sound like it to you, but you cope your situation. You'll be like okay, how can I make this situation better? I'm down, you get what I'm saying. So this is how I move. It's just piloting the energy. Like I said, I don't try to figure it out, I'm just trying to take it slow because it's like you can get caught up in this. It's real as far as like you know what I'm saying, the things that's going on. It's kind of like it's really a hard you know, what I'm saying Because of forces.
anthony:I've been on 13 years. Of course I got a lot to say.
Speaker 3:It's really hard. Just think about this 13 years.
anthony:Let's get on like I come out, Okay, I? May make it's 16, I'll be for 16, something I'll be all just said. Maybe jump up to three foot out of the race. In the 30s, 60s I spent because I have to See. You know what I'm saying. Now he going life and judgment. How am I getting out seeing six months later in the 23, charlie saying I'm in a job that's being more than the average person.
Speaker 3:That never been locked up.
anthony:Now you're going to say average is just this way. You get what I'm saying Causa leaving ain't just high, but it's really is high. You get what I'm saying higher than what it was, and it's kind of like how am I going to?
anthony:make an adjustment Like you really got to have, not ball, but it's kind of like the mindset. That's why I go back to say when you get your situation, you cope with it. Think about how you're going to make it better. So that coincides with what I was telling you about. You read your books. I read the Urban Woods Forest Siggin' in the Tangled. What I really got to read. You know what I'm saying the rich and power and like you know it's $14 a pound.
anthony:I mean I can name a lot, but it's kind of like if you I'm pretty sure I can see what some executives in talk, you hear me, yeah.
khyia:I say, don't name them all. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I can see what some executives in talk, but you get what I'm saying though.
anthony:It's just I'm blessed, that's why I got a lot to say.
khyia:I'm long winded. My brother can talk, baby, he can talk.
anthony:Yeah, I'm long winded about it, cause you supposed to have a story to say. That's you give what I'm saying. I get you, I get you, but some people get sucked up and it's just honest to Well this interview has been very interesting.
khyia:Very interesting, I have joined it. I am tired as hell.
Speaker 3:Y'all let me tell you it is 1.40 steps. That's why we're really like in the morning In the fucking morning. Let me tell you all this a little bit A little bit, man.
anthony:I just feel like I have to give my embassy a tough time.
khyia:I have booked this man. We have changed man booking three times. It's been hard trying to get him here three times y'all and he tried to cancel me today. I did try to cancel again today. Move a breast no don't be put my little nephew over here.
anthony:Open it, but he got nothing to do with it. I'm doing good, though. Why I'm going Monday.
khyia:We going Monday.
anthony:Yeah.
khyia:Work.
anthony:After you shoot this shit we.
khyia:Well, now I'm off Monday.
anthony:Fine, let's see how I'm going to off on. Saturday, but I'm still working, but I still Sorry for the way you are and I love it. I love it because it's kind of like I had been saying this man, if it's like, I said you know you don't get to work.
khyia:Yeah, the people. Because this is, let me say, I don't spend a lot of money doing this shit. So if y'all, if I'm interviewing y'all, or got to sit y'all for a date, please, please, do not waste my time in your time. You know you're not going to make the interview. Please do it ahead of time. Call me ahead of time, not the day of. It is my fault, because I'll be. I'll be reaching out to you.
Speaker 3:I'll be trying to. If I see a store, I'm always trying to reach out to everybody and trying to get everybody a platform to speak. I'll say say something.
khyia:But I got to learn it because I can't, you can't help, you can't say it. Try to get it. No, no, no, because this is my thing, this is my brand, this is my shit. You know I'm saying something I got to work on it. You know, I'm saying with my people, the right people in view, not saying you to be a bad person.
anthony:Yeah, I give what you said a whole entire time. But just like interviewing family and friends, you know saying people play with your time, thank you. Yeah, it's a kind of like what were you going to talk about this, while I'm like see you say that we talked about it was nothing made. That's true. I give what you said.
Speaker 3:It was your life, it's your life. We don't talk about what we experienced. You don't talk about what you got.
khyia:And what you been locked up to 10, 7, how ever long you was in. You know what I'm saying. That was a part of your life, so there's a lot of people that been locked up or got out. You know what I'm saying. You probably can help somebody. Your story can help somebody, so why not talk about it?
anthony:You gotta put this on security.
khyia:I can get that to put on security. But I do appreciate you opening up. I do appreciate you opening up.
anthony:I am on first time. I mean, besides the guy that was in there not to give back to it, it was all definitely all love you had your paper, if you were seeing like damn bro. So of course you going to call to the streets Like, oh yeah, bro, definitely stand up guys.
Speaker 3:So this is how it was, I was fortunate bless.
khyia:Well, you guys, this is just your story.
anthony:Do everything. Keep the high power first, whatever they may be for you, right.
khyia:So y'all, that is the end of this interview. You guys remember to subscribe to my YouTube channel. Also, you can follow me on Facebook, instagram, tiktok. All my stuff will be in the description. Did you put your stuff in the description? We don't know if we gonna put the information in the description.
anthony:Like I'm sneaking really excellent stuff. I'm not gonna be a co-coach.
Speaker 3:That's why I'm being along with I'm saying seriously, I work.
khyia:Look, I worked, that's all I do.
anthony:I got the most Well you took me through hell this interview, honey. This is it.
khyia:Okay, applaud me for getting out work at midnight. I work every day. I work every day. I understand, I work every day too. Then I get home to a podcast up to record to edit into.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. Doing my shit, so I understand I work. You got to keep when you got some tricks, see.
anthony:I'm saying business, business, business. I want to put it on there, but I just want to go forward. But hey, you can't do it to me, so you know they'll figure it out you gonna say it's like you know, we will see what he gonna do.
khyia:But anyway, guys, y'all can, like I said, my Facebook, instagram, youtube spread to my YouTube. I'll saw on BuzzFraud, which is a platform for podcasts. My podcast is on the platform as well. So you go on BuzzFraud. I will have my link and everything on my Facebook and Instagram, so this episode will be coming out.
anthony:What's? The day is the 20th. We're on the 20th.
khyia:So Monday, what's the day Sunday? Oh yeah, Sunday now. So the 21st, really yeah. So I mean I got to get to work.
Speaker 3:So I got to edit it.
khyia:I got to edit the video. Today, right now, tomorrow. Okay, I'll talk about what you said.
anthony:You said you don't see what I'm gonna do, like I'm gonna pull up. Let me know the time of the day. I got to work. So this it. You know what I'm saying. I have to get it more, but it's kind of like I got to say this Don't be sexually driven. Like do something productive, like help. You know what I'm saying. They ain't about just giving you money Like help somebody. You get what I'm saying. Like if it's a kid, like police, stop me. You know what I'm saying.
anthony:I know you want to end the session, but it's kind of like people will be watching and it's like it's nothing to do. But he see, my work is to work. Like when I do get out, I'm hopping out the car before I go and get myself together. I'm gonna have to literally you know what I'm saying. Just you know what I'm saying Shooting those shots Like it's the community. So look, he is everything. You know what I'm saying. Like they know me going to not. So he'd be. Like he'd make sure that they straight. So he stopped me one day.
anthony:Like literally inviting me to dinner and I was like, bro, I know who you is, like I see your move and I see you take out time at your day after getting out work. You're like I ain't watch. I said I know you just doing your job patrolling. He was like like I see what type of guy you is, you know what I'm saying, like I'm a customer. He was like yeah, me too. So it's kind of like that Just get in with a better mind frame and pray to your high power to go man cast at your demons, be actually good to the earth. You know lower energy you gonna get. That's what you put in. That's what you put in man. What you put in, that's true.
Speaker 3:That's why I'm putting in this work. Thanks, putting in this mother-fucking work.
khyia:But love you guys. Subscribe to my YouTube channel, See you next time. Thanks, don't give me all the work.